From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2021 06:56:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210109055645.GA2009@1wt.eu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAK8P3a2VW8T+yYUG1pn1yR-5eU4jJXe1+M_ot6DAvfr2KyXCzQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 11:55:06PM +0100, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> * 80486SX/DX: 80386 CPUs were dropped in 2012, and there are
> indications that 486 have no users either on recent kernels.
> There is still the Vortex86 family of SoCs, and the oldest of those were
> 486SX-class, but all the modern ones are 586-class.
These also are the last generation of fanless x86 boards with 100% compatible
controllers, that some people have probably kept around because these don't
age much and have plenty of connectivity. I've used an old one a few times
to plug in an old floppy drive, ISA SCSI controllers to access an old tape
drive and a few such things. That doesn't mean that it's a good justification
not to remove them, what I rather mean is that *if* there is no benefit
in dropping them maybe we can keep them. On the other hand, good luck for
running a modern OS on these, when 16MB-32MB RAM was about the maximum that
was commonly found by then (though if people kept them around that's probably
because they were well equipped, like that 64MB 386DX I'm having :-)).
Willy
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Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-01-08 22:55 Old platforms: bring out your dead Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-08 23:32 ` Steven Rostedt
2021-01-09 22:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-08 23:44 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-01-09 0:16 ` Linus Walleij
2021-01-09 17:32 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-09 21:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-09 5:56 ` Willy Tarreau [this message]
2021-01-09 21:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-10 6:21 ` Willy Tarreau
2021-01-10 10:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-01-11 9:50 ` David Laight
2021-01-13 10:27 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-13 12:02 ` Linus Walleij
2021-01-13 12:17 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-13 12:21 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-15 0:03 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2021-01-15 0:24 ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-01-15 8:59 ` David Laight
2021-01-13 12:30 ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-01-13 12:56 ` William Breathitt Gray
2021-01-13 13:44 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-02-04 21:01 ` Pavel Machek
2021-02-05 9:13 ` David Laight
2021-02-05 9:29 ` Pavel Machek
2021-01-09 17:34 ` Florian Fainelli
2021-01-09 21:18 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-09 17:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-01-09 21:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 20:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-01-09 20:19 ` Baruch Siach
2021-01-09 21:19 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <67171E13-6786-4B44-A8C2-3302963B055F@gmail.com>
2021-01-09 22:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-10 18:12 ` Fabian Vogt
2021-01-10 19:20 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-10 21:33 ` Linus Walleij
2021-01-11 0:33 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-01-11 12:32 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 12:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2021-01-09 23:12 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-10 8:45 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-10 16:46 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-10 17:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-10 19:51 ` Andrew Lunn
2021-01-10 15:51 ` Neil Armstrong
2021-01-10 15:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 1:39 ` Daniel Palmer
2021-01-11 9:15 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-01-11 9:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-11 9:26 ` John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
2021-01-11 9:36 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-11 9:50 ` Greg Ungerer
2021-01-11 9:42 ` Daniel Palmer
2021-01-11 10:13 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 8:19 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-11 8:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 9:16 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-11 10:28 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2021-01-11 10:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 9:40 ` Thomas Bogendoerfer
2021-01-11 10:34 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 8:49 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2021-01-11 9:31 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 10:27 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2021-01-11 11:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 8:53 ` Alexander Sverdlin
2021-01-11 11:10 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-01-11 19:59 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 21:15 ` Mattias Wallin
2021-01-11 21:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 13:13 ` Marc Gonzalez
2021-01-11 17:29 ` Måns Rullgård
2021-01-11 21:50 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-12 8:23 ` Marc Gonzalez
2021-01-11 14:22 ` Mark Salter
2021-01-11 15:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 14:44 ` Alexander Shiyan
2021-01-11 14:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 16:23 ` Sylvain Lemieux
2021-01-11 22:17 ` Alexandre Belloni
2021-01-11 19:58 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2021-01-11 20:10 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-11 20:25 ` Song Bao Hua (Barry Song)
2021-01-12 8:41 ` Marc Gonzalez
2021-01-13 10:30 ` Andy Shevchenko
2021-01-13 11:02 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <CAK8P3a2DZ8xQp7R=H=wewHnT2=a_=M53QsZOueMVEf7tOZLKNg@mail.gmail.com>
2021-01-13 19:00 ` [v2] " Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-01-14 8:51 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-15 7:08 ` Wei Xu
2021-01-15 9:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-15 11:09 ` Leizhen (ThunderTown)
2021-01-15 12:04 ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-01-18 10:46 ` Wei Xu
2021-01-13 22:27 ` Richard Z
2021-02-05 13:37 ` Alexander Lobakin
2021-10-23 17:44 ` Maciej W. Rozycki
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