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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
Cc: "Boris BREZILLON" <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>,
	"Jernej Skrabec" <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>,
	"Emilio López" <emilio@elopez.com.ar>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"Chen-Yu Tsai" <wens@csie.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 12/21] clk: sunxi: clk-sun6i-ar100: Demote non-conformant kernel-doc header
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2021 10:09:20 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210203100920.GB2329016@dell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210203092744.yfedaauyynzn537h@gilmour>

On Wed, 03 Feb 2021, Maxime Ripard wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 04:54:59PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > On Tue, 26 Jan 2021, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Jan 26, 2021 at 12:45:31PM +0000, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > Fixes the following W=1 kernel build warning(s):
> > > > 
> > > >  drivers/clk/sunxi/clk-sun6i-ar100.c:26: warning: Function parameter or member 'req' not described in 'sun6i_get_ar100_factors'
> > > > 
> > > > Cc: "Emilio López" <emilio@elopez.com.ar>
> > > > Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>
> > > > Cc: Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>
> > > > Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
> > > > Cc: Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>
> > > > Cc: Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@siol.net>
> > > > Cc: Boris BREZILLON <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
> > > > Cc: linux-clk@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
> > > > Signed-off-by: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
> > > > ---
> > > >  drivers/clk/sunxi/clk-sun6i-ar100.c | 2 +-
> > > >  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/clk/sunxi/clk-sun6i-ar100.c b/drivers/clk/sunxi/clk-sun6i-ar100.c
> > > > index e1b7d0929cf7f..54babc2b4b9ee 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/clk/sunxi/clk-sun6i-ar100.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/clk/sunxi/clk-sun6i-ar100.c
> > > > @@ -16,7 +16,7 @@
> > > >  
> > > >  #include "clk-factors.h"
> > > >  
> > > > -/**
> > > > +/*
> > > >   * sun6i_get_ar100_factors - Calculates factors p, m for AR100
> > > >   *
> > > >   * AR100 rate is calculated as follows
> > > 
> > > This is the sixth patch doing the exact same thing over the files in
> > > that folder you sent. Please fix all the occurences at once
> > 
> > No.  That would make the whole clean-up process 10x harder than it
> > already is
> > 
> > Before starting this endeavour there were 18,000+ warnings spread over
> > 100's of files and 10's of subsystems that needed addressing (only a
> > couple thousand left now thankfully).  Some issues vastly different,
> > some duplicated (much too much copy/pasting going which made things
> > very frustrating at times).
> > 
> > Anyway, in order to work though them all gracefully and in a sensible
> > time-frame I had to come up with a workable plan.  Each subsystem is
> > compiled separately and a script attempts to take out duplicate
> > warnings and takes me through the build-log one file at a time.  Once
> > all of the warnings are fixed in a source-file, it moves on to the
> > next file.  The method is clean and allows me to handle this
> > gargantuan task in bite-sized chunks.
> 
> I mean, you have literally used the same commit log and the same changes
> over six different files in the same directory.

Yes, that happens.  It's an unfortunate side-effect of the same ol'
issues repeating themselves over and over.  Mostly due to copy/paste
of mundane code segments such as function documentation.

> Sure changes across
> different parts of the kernel can be painful, but it's really not what
> we're discussing here.

It would have even been painful to post-process patches within the
same subsystem.  For instance, I've just finished cleaning up GPU
which was a mammoth task where most of the issues were perpetually
duplicated.

I will admit though, that here in Clock, it would be somewhat easier.

> > Going though and pairing up similar changes is unsustainable for a
> > task like this.  It would add a lot of additional overhead and would
> > slow down the rate of acceptance since source files tend to have
> > different reviewers/maintainers - some working faster to review
> > patches than others, leading to excessive lag times waiting for that
> > one reviewer who takes weeks to review.
> 
> Are you arguing that sending the same patch 6 times is easier and faster
> to review for the maintainer than the same changes in a single patch?

The issue I see with the Clock, is that some files are maintained by
individual driver Maintainers and others by subsystem Maintainers.  So
the post-process here is that much more painful (as it can't be
easily scripted using get_maintainer.pl) and the aforementioned
lag-time issues come into play while we wait for sleepy reviewers.

> > Having each file addressed in a separate patch also helps
> > revertability and bisectability. Not such a big problem with the
> > documentation patches, but still.
> 
> There's nothing to revert or bisect, those changes aren't functional
> changes.

Right, I did mention that.

> > Admittedly doing it this way *can* look a bit odd in *some* patch-sets
> > when they hit the MLs - particularly clock it seems, where there
> > hasn't even been a vague attempt to document any of the parameters in
> > the kernel-doc headers - however the alternative would mean nothing
> > would get done!
> 
> Yeah, and even though properly documenting the functions would have been
> the right way to fix those warnings, I didn't ask you to do that since I
> was expecting it to be daunting.

There are a couple of schools of thought on function documentation.
The conflicting one to yours is that Kernel-doc headers should only be
used if they are part of an API and have an accompanying kernel-doc::
tag in Documentation.  The functions touched here do not.

NB: Fortunately the functions we're discussing are all static or else
`scripts/find-unused-docs.sh` would complain about them also.

Personally, I am in the middle.  If authors have had a good go at
documenting functions and their parameters, I'll make the effort to
fix any doc-rot or oversights.  However if, like here, no such effort
has been made, they get demoted.  Nothing stopping authors fixing them
up properly and re-promoting them again though.  Essentially I'm
trying to avoid a situation where authors throw something together
half-heatedly, safe in the knowledge that someone will come fix and
beautify things for them.

> Surely we can meet half-way

I'm always happy to collaborate.  What does half-way look like?

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
Senior Technical Lead - Developer Services
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-03 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-26 12:45 [PATCH 00/21] [Set 2] Rid W=1 warnings from Clock Lee Jones
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 01/21] clk: zynq: pll: Fix kernel-doc formatting in 'clk_register_zynq_pll's header Lee Jones
2021-01-26 12:58   ` Michal Simek
2021-02-11 19:54   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 05/21] clk: sunxi: clk-sun9i-core: Demote non-conformant kernel-doc headers Lee Jones
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 06/21] clk: sunxi: clk-usb: Demote obvious kernel-doc abuse Lee Jones
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 08/21] clk: clkdev: Ignore suggestion to use gnu_printf() as it's not appropriate here Lee Jones
2021-02-11 19:23   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-12  9:36     ` Lee Jones
2021-03-10  8:59       ` Lee Jones
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 12/21] clk: sunxi: clk-sun6i-ar100: Demote non-conformant kernel-doc header Lee Jones
2021-01-26 15:54   ` Maxime Ripard
2021-01-26 16:54     ` Lee Jones
2021-02-03  9:27       ` Maxime Ripard
2021-02-03 10:09         ` Lee Jones [this message]
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 19/21] clk: spear: Move prototype to accessible header Lee Jones
2021-01-27  4:36   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-11 19:58   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 20/21] clk: imx: Move 'imx6sl_set_wait_clk()'s prototype out " Lee Jones
2021-01-30 14:13   ` Shawn Guo
2021-01-26 12:45 ` [PATCH 21/21] clk: zynqmp: divider: Add missing description for 'max_div' Lee Jones
2021-01-26 12:51   ` Michal Simek
2021-02-11 19:58   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-03  8:31 ` [PATCH 00/21] [Set 2] Rid W=1 warnings from Clock Lee Jones
2021-02-05 18:55   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-05 19:19     ` Lee Jones
2021-02-08  6:45 ` Tero Kristo
2021-02-11 20:47 ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-11 21:10   ` Lee Jones
2021-02-12  3:07     ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-12  9:20       ` Lee Jones
2021-02-12 21:02         ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-12 21:25           ` Lee Jones
2021-02-12 21:26             ` Lee Jones
2021-02-12 22:05               ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-12 22:37                 ` Lee Jones
2021-02-13  0:06                   ` Stephen Boyd
2021-02-13 16:04                     ` Andrew Lunn
     [not found]                       ` <161333644244.1254594.4498059850307971318@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2021-02-14 21:20                         ` Andrew Lunn
2021-02-15  8:49                           ` Lee Jones
2021-02-15 17:45                             ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-16  8:20                               ` Lee Jones
2021-02-17 18:08                                 ` Jakub Kicinski
2021-02-18  9:31                                   ` Lee Jones
2021-02-13 15:58       ` Andrew Lunn

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