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From: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>
To: Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Denis Nikitin <denik@chromium.org>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Coresight ML <coresight@lists.linaro.org>,
	John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	"open list:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Daniel Kiss <Daniel.Kiss@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 7/7] Documentation: coresight: Add PID tracing description
Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 13:42:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210205054216.GB5797@leoy-ThinkPad-X240s> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ9a7VgQUAsD46DQARXm1qwiNgd4KU+yymezSEqmoX_7Umvt_A@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Feb 04, 2021 at 12:14:12PM +0000, Mike Leach wrote:

[...]

> > >>> +To support tracing PID for the kernel runs at different exception levels,
> > >>> +the PMU formats are defined as follow:
> > >>> +
> > >>> +  "contextid1": Available on both EL1 kernel and EL2 kernel.  When the
> > >>> +                kernel is running at EL1, "contextid1" enables the PID
> > >>> +                tracing; when the kernel is running at EL2, this enables
> > >>> +                tracing the PID of guest applications.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +  "contextid2": Only usable when the kernel is running at EL2.  When
> > >>> +                selected, enables PID tracing on EL2 kernel.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +  "contextid":  Will be an alias for the option that enables PID
> > >>> +                tracing.  I.e,
> > >>> +                contextid == contextid1, on EL1 kernel.
> > >>> +                contextid == contextid2, on EL2 kernel.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +The perf tool automatically sets corresponding bit for the "contextid" config,
> > >>> +therefore, the user doesn't have to bother which EL the kernel is running.
> > >>> +
> > >>> +  i.e, perf record -e cs_etm/contextid/u -- uname
> > >>> +    or perf record -e cs_etm//u -- uname
> > >>> +
> > >>> +will always do the "PID" tracing, independent of the kernel EL.
> > >>> +
> > >>
> > >> This is telling me that both cs_etm// and cs_etm/contextid/ have the
> > >> same effect - trace PID. Is this correct?
> > >
> >
> > Just to make this clear, this is not a side effect of the patch.
> 
> Which is fine - but the documentation should accurately reflect what
> is happening on the system.
> This is a new paragraph about the PID tracing or otherwise, Even if
> some of the effects pre-date this patch, they have to be accurately
> communicated.
> I am also reading the new paragraph in the context of the rest of the
> coresight.rst document - which is a user level document explaining the
> basic operation of the coresight system and tools.
> This document mentions no other perf command line parameters relevant
> to coresight other than the @sink option.It actually calls out to the
> OpenCSD docs to provide further information.
> 
> > The perf
> > tool driver automatically adds the "contextid" tracing and timestamp for
> > "system wide" and process bound events, as they traces get mixed into
> > the single sink. So these options are added implicitly by the perf tool
> > to make the decoding easier.
> >
> 
> That's fine - I have no problem with contextID trace enabled by
> default. Context ID is relatively low overhead - and only emitted at
> start of trace  / context changes.
> But the explanation of the parameters currently reads as though they
> always have an effect - and not putting them in there will omit the
> effect - unless you spot the very subtle line at the end.
> 
> The user does not need to know about parameters that have no effect!

Thanks for the suggestion, Mike.

> Perhaps a better approach would be to explain the above - an explicit
> statement that "perf will always enable PID/ contextID tracing at the
> relevant EL - but for EL2 it is possible to make specific adjustments
> using parameters......."

Usually users assume the PMU format has no effect if without set it; but
this is not the case for the config "contextid", this config has been
automatically enabled by perf tool.

Based on your suggesiton, will refine the descrption for two things:
clarify what's the common usage for EL1/EL2, and what's specific for
EL2.

Thanks,
Leo

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      reply	other threads:[~2021-02-05  5:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-02 16:38 [PATCH v2 0/7] coresight: etm-perf: Fix pid tracing with VHE Leo Yan
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] coresight: etm-perf: Clarify comment on perf options Leo Yan
2021-02-02 23:00   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-04  3:36     ` Leo Yan
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] coresight: etm-perf: Support PID tracing for kernel at EL2 Leo Yan
2021-02-02 23:06   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-05 13:47     ` Mike Leach
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] perf cs-etm: Fix bitmap for option Leo Yan
2021-02-05 11:47   ` Mike Leach
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] perf cs-etm: Support PID tracing in config Leo Yan
2021-02-05 13:48   ` Mike Leach
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] perf cs-etm: Add helper cs_etm__get_pid_fmt() Leo Yan
2021-02-02 23:19   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-04  3:47     ` Leo Yan
2021-02-04 10:54       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-04 11:23         ` Leo Yan
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] perf cs-etm: Detect pid in VMID for kernel running at EL2 Leo Yan
2021-02-02 23:29   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-04  4:00     ` Leo Yan
2021-02-04 10:57       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-02 16:38 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] Documentation: coresight: Add PID tracing description Leo Yan
2021-02-02 23:24   ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-04  4:02     ` Leo Yan
2021-02-03 17:39   ` Mike Leach
2021-02-04  4:09     ` Leo Yan
2021-02-04 11:08       ` Suzuki K Poulose
2021-02-04 12:14         ` Mike Leach
2021-02-05  5:42           ` Leo Yan [this message]

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