From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.6 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIMWL_WL_HIGH, DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI, MENTIONS_GIT_HOSTING,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,URIBL_BLOCKED,USER_AGENT_SANE_1 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0A64C433DB for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from merlin.infradead.org (merlin.infradead.org [205.233.59.134]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5E68A64F4A for ; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 09:31:21 +0000 (UTC) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 mail.kernel.org 5E68A64F4A Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=ucw.cz Authentication-Results: mail.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=merlin.20170209; h=Sender:Content-Type:Cc: List-Subscribe:List-Help:List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=kTmCTYy4wxmiBRqWS95WLrOMe5py7oCCpqgWF+p49/M=; b=JKxw6CbsjquCpQhsKNwjNX45d DUum2Cr9zzSLZb4R1+4CKZvVeHsSdoakuzXaa8E0q7pnmWx2xI0p9hnDb0Lut2yKwYyhe71mEyKVx LVEgNUVFag84MnMnQ9S5LcvQxeLeOpoMwt9cruqhd5NQFGdMQyHFYwBQQ6l0ryO+lJqE7GmC9xPMg HNX8NVmv+hJWHBWHmlChqK2TQIwmPsdjik1m3yvsWVfvkhnec2RiGuLIU9VXKi3/b57eoXHG2P1eg V7BXCotKMdcy+U3CSxZQLeI2BmTfPHYB2myu+6nAYuOJzyfPWs6J4+lHmGNfBWyY0a4Cu7TW9QbDA ZMKv90WGA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=merlin.infradead.org) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1l7xRE-00029t-QI; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 09:30:04 +0000 Received: from jabberwock.ucw.cz ([46.255.230.98]) by merlin.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.92.3 #3 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1l7xRB-00028n-FF for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Fri, 05 Feb 2021 09:30:02 +0000 Received: by jabberwock.ucw.cz (Postfix, from userid 1017) id 96D231C0B77; Fri, 5 Feb 2021 10:29:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 5 Feb 2021 10:29:58 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: David Laight Subject: Re: Old platforms: bring out your dead Message-ID: <20210205092957.GA24839@amd> References: <20210109055645.GA2009@1wt.eu> <6fb7e3f5035d44fab9801001f1811b59@AcuMS.aculab.com> <20210204210140.GB7529@amd> <4f53ce214f2c498fa47794327a8f35fc@AcuMS.aculab.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <4f53ce214f2c498fa47794327a8f35fc@AcuMS.aculab.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12) X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.8.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20210205_043001_631212_F9CEA8D0 X-CRM114-Status: GOOD ( 18.86 ) X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: Baruch Siach , Geert Uytterhoeven , Neil Armstrong , Viresh Kumar , Linus Walleij , Daniel Tang , Jamie Iles , Krzysztof Adamski , Alexander Shiyan , Michael Ellerman , Yoshinori Sato , Russell King - ARM Linux , Wei Xu , Oleksij Rempel , Andy Shevchenko , Alex Elder , Marc Gonzalez , Hans Ulli Kroll , Uwe =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kleine-K=F6nig?= , Steven Rostedt , Vladimir Zapolskiy , Lubomir Rintel , Koen Vandeputte , Linux ARM , Barry Song , Arnd Bergmann , Thomas Bogendoerfer , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Jonas Jensen , Hartley Sweeten , Mark Salter , Shawn Guo , Willy Tarreau Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1866877392415015589==" Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org --===============1866877392415015589== Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="17pEHd4RhPHOinZp" Content-Disposition: inline --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri 2021-02-05 09:13:03, David Laight wrote: > > We have open-hardware implementation for 486, AFAICT, thanks to MISTer > > project. I'm not aware of open 586 core. > >=20 > > Being able to run recent Linux on open hardware sounds fun. >=20 > Putting a 486 on an fpga might be 'interesting'. > But it has a lot of 'cruft' (like 286 protected mode) that > you really don't need. > I'd bet RISCV comes out smaller. Well.. RISCV may be smaller, and there are open-hardware RISCV _cores_, but not complete systems. > Most x86 ports are actually IBM-PC ports - so you'd also have > to sort out all the peripherals. And that's exactly what they are doing, and what makes the project important: https://github.com/MiSTer-devel/ao486_MiSTer Best regards, Pavel --=20 http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1 iEYEARECAAYFAmAdEBUACgkQMOfwapXb+vLw2gCfWSwgmm3JEf+uyuraRX3lFEmG rM4AnjtclN7RIns+TGG/0llsxKhP4KkN =rAts -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --17pEHd4RhPHOinZp-- --===============1866877392415015589== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ linux-arm-kernel mailing list linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-arm-kernel --===============1866877392415015589==--