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From: "Russell King (Oracle)" <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 12:23:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210617112305.GK22278@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210617103524.GA82133@C02TD0UTHF1T.local>

On Thu, Jun 17, 2021 at 11:40:46AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 08:21:12PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On arm32, the only way to safely flush icache from usermode is to call
> > cacheflush(2).  This also handles any required pipeline flushes, so
> > membarrier's SYNC_CORE feature is useless on arm.  Remove it.
> 
> Unfortunately, it's a bit more complicated than that, and these days
> SYNC_CORE is equally necessary on arm as on arm64. This is something
> that changed in the architecture over time, but since ARMv7 we generally
> need both the cache maintenance *and* a context synchronization event
> (the latter must occur on the CPU which will execute the instructions).
> 
> If you look at the latest ARMv7-AR manual (ARM DDI 406C.d), section
> A3.5.4 "Concurrent modification and execution of instructions" covers
> this. That manual can be found at:
> 
> 	https://developer.arm.com/documentation/ddi0406/latest/

Looking at that, sys_cacheflush() meets this. The manual details a
series of cache maintenance calls in "step 1" that the modifying thread
must issue - this is exactly what sys_cacheflush() does. The same is
true for ARMv6, except the "ISB" terminology is replaced by a
"PrefetchFlush" terminology. (I checked DDI0100I).

"step 2" requires an ISB on the "other CPU" prior to executing that
code. As I understand it, in ARMv7, userspace can issue an ISB itself.

For ARMv6K, it doesn't have ISB, but instead has a CP15 instruction
for this that isn't availble to userspace. This is where we come to
the situation about ARM 11MPCore, and whether we continue to support
it or not.

So, I think we're completely fine with ARMv7 under 32-bit ARM kernels
as userspace has everything that's required. ARMv6K is a different
matter as we've already identified for several reasons.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-17 11:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <cover.1623813516.git.luto@kernel.org>
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 7/8] membarrier: Remove arm (32) support for SYNC_CORE Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  9:28   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 10:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:20     ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 10:34       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 11:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-16 13:22           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:04             ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 15:23               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-16 15:45                 ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:00                   ` Catalin Marinas
2021-06-16 16:27                     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-17  8:55                       ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2021-06-18 12:54                       ` Linus Walleij
2021-06-18 13:19                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2021-06-18 13:36                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2021-06-17 10:40   ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 11:23     ` Russell King (Oracle) [this message]
2021-06-17 11:33       ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 13:41         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 13:51           ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 14:00             ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:20               ` Mark Rutland
2021-06-17 15:01               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 15:13                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-17 14:16             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-17 14:05           ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-06-18  0:07   ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  3:21 ` [PATCH 8/8] membarrier: Rewrite sync_core_before_usermode() and improve documentation Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16  4:45   ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-16 18:52     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-16 23:48       ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 15:27       ` Christophe Leroy
2021-06-16 10:20   ` Will Deacon
2021-06-16 23:58     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-17 14:47   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18  0:12     ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 16:31       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18 19:58         ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-18 20:09           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-19  6:02             ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-19 15:50               ` Andy Lutomirski
2021-06-20  2:10                 ` Nicholas Piggin
2021-06-17 15:16   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2021-06-18  0:13     ` Andy Lutomirski

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