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From: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
To: "Noralf Trønnes" <noralf@tronnes.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/30] drm/modes: Add a function to generate analog display modes
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2022 09:34:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20221018073416.7tttm6mnbt2pdrpk@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71e53906-ae9b-55b9-7a93-7bb04a891423@tronnes.org>

Hi,

On Sat, Oct 15, 2022 at 05:04:50PM +0200, Noralf Trønnes wrote:
> Den 13.10.2022 10.36, skrev Maxime Ripard:
> > On Sat, Oct 01, 2022 at 02:52:06PM +0200, Noralf Trønnes wrote:
> >> Den 29.09.2022 18.31, skrev Maxime Ripard:
> >>> Multiple drivers (meson, vc4, sun4i) define analog TV 525-lines and
> >>> 625-lines modes in their drivers.
> >>>
> >>> Since those modes are fairly standard, and that we'll need to use them
> >>> in more places in the future, it makes sense to move their definition
> >>> into the core framework.
> >>>
> >>> However, analog display usually have fairly loose timings requirements,
> >>> the only discrete parameters being the total number of lines and pixel
> >>> clock frequency. Thus, we created a function that will create a display
> >>> mode from the standard, the pixel frequency and the active area.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
> >>>
> >>> ---
> >>>
> >>> Changes in v4:
> >>> - Reworded the line length check comment
> >>> - Switch to HZ_PER_KHZ in tests
> >>> - Use previous timing to fill our mode
> >>> - Move the number of lines check earlier
> >>> ---
> >>>  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_modes.c            | 474 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  drivers/gpu/drm/tests/Makefile         |   1 +
> >>>  drivers/gpu/drm/tests/drm_modes_test.c | 144 ++++++++++
> >>>  include/drm/drm_modes.h                |  17 ++
> >>>  4 files changed, 636 insertions(+)
> >>>
> >>
> >> I haven't followed the discussion on this patch, but it seems rather
> >> excessive to add over 600 lines of code (including tests) to add 2 fixed
> >> modes. And it's very difficult to see from the code what the actual
> >> display mode timings really are, which would be useful for other
> >> developers down the road wanting to use them.
> >>
> >> Why not just hardcode the modes?
> > 
> > Yeah, I have kind of the same feeling tbh, but it was asked back on the
> > v1 to ease the transition of old fbdev drivers, since they will need
> > such a function:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/CAMuHMdUrwzPYjA0wdR7ADj5Ov6+m03JbnY8fBYzRYyWDuNm5=g@mail.gmail.com/
> > 
> 
> If that's the case I suggest you just hardcode them for now and leave
> the complexity to the developer doing the actual conversion of the fbdev
> driver. Who knows when that will happen, but that person will have your
> well documented and discussed work to fall back on.

I'd rather not, tbh. We've collectively spent weeks figuring this out,
reviewing it and so on, I very much want to avoid doing this all over
again if it's going to be useful at some point.

Jani also wanted to expose a function and not a raw mode, so this patch
also addresses that:
https://lore.kernel.org/dri-devel/8735eeg31e.fsf@intel.com/

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-18  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-29 16:30 [PATCH v4 00/30] drm: Analog TV Improvements Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 01/30] drm/docs: Remove unused TV Standard property Maxime Ripard
2022-09-30 11:34   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 02/30] drm/tests: Order Kunit tests in Makefile Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 03/30] drm/tests: Add Kunit Helpers Maxime Ripard
2022-09-30 14:47   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 04/30] drm/atomic-helper: Rename drm_atomic_helper_connector_tv_reset to avoid ambiguity Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:30 ` [PATCH v4 05/30] drm/connector: Rename subconnector state variable Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 06/30] drm/atomic: Add TV subconnector property to get/set_property Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 07/30] drm/connector: Rename legacy TV property Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 08/30] drm/connector: Only register TV mode property if present Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 09/30] drm/connector: Rename drm_mode_create_tv_properties Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 10/30] drm/connector: Add TV standard property Maxime Ripard
2022-09-30 11:46   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 11/30] drm/modes: Add a function to generate analog display modes Maxime Ripard
2022-10-01 12:52   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-10-13  8:36     ` Maxime Ripard
2022-10-15 15:04       ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-10-18  7:34         ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 12/30] drm/modes: Only consider bpp and refresh before options Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 13/30] drm/modes: parse_cmdline: Add support for named modes containing dashes Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 14/30] drm/client: Add some tests for drm_connector_pick_cmdline_mode() Maxime Ripard
2022-10-01 17:42   ` Maíra Canal
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 15/30] drm/modes: Move named modes parsing to a separate function Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 16/30] drm/modes: Switch to named mode descriptors Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 17/30] drm/modes: Fill drm_cmdline mode from named modes Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 18/30] drm/connector: Add pixel clock to cmdline mode Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 19/30] drm/connector: Add a function to lookup a TV mode by its name Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 20/30] drm/modes: Introduce the tv_mode property as a command-line option Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 21/30] drm/modes: Properly generate a drm_display_mode from a named mode Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 22/30] drm/modes: Introduce more named modes Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 23/30] drm/atomic-helper: Add a TV properties reset helper Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 24/30] drm/atomic-helper: Add an analog TV atomic_check implementation Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 25/30] drm/vc4: vec: Fix definition of PAL-M mode Maxime Ripard
2022-10-10 12:10   ` (subset) " Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 26/30] drm/vc4: vec: Use TV Reset implementation Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 27/30] drm/vc4: vec: Check for VEC output constraints Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 28/30] drm/vc4: vec: Convert to the new TV mode property Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 29/30] drm/vc4: vec: Add support for more analog TV standards Maxime Ripard
2022-09-29 16:31 ` [PATCH v4 30/30] drm/sun4i: tv: Convert to the new TV mode property Maxime Ripard
2022-10-01 12:37   ` Noralf Trønnes
2022-10-01 13:12 ` [PATCH v4 00/30] drm: Analog TV Improvements Noralf Trønnes
2022-10-10 12:11   ` Maxime Ripard

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