From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Francesco Dolcini <francesco@dolcini.it>
Cc: Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>, Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>,
Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
Francesco Dolcini <francesco.dolcini@toradex.com>,
Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, stable@vger.kernel.org,
u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] mtd: parsers: ofpart: Fix parsing when size-cells is 0
Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2023 12:33:34 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230105123334.7f90c289@xps-13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230102104004.6abae6da@xps-13>
Hi Francesco,
miquel.raynal@bootlin.com wrote on Mon, 2 Jan 2023 10:40:04 +0100:
> Hi Francesco,
>
> francesco@dolcini.it wrote on Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:30:18 +0100:
>
> > On Fri, Dec 16, 2022 at 04:35:01PM +0100, Miquel Raynal wrote:
> > > marex@denx.de wrote on Fri, 16 Dec 2022 15:32:28 +0100:
> > > > The second part of the message, as far as I understand it, is
> > > > "ignore problems this will cause to users of boards we do not know
> > > > about, let them run into unbootable systems after some linux kernel
> > > > update,
> > >
> > > Now you know what kernel update will break them, so you can prevent it
> > > from happening.
> > >
> > > For boards without even a dtsi in the kernel, should we care?
> >
> > Would caring for those boards not be just exact the same as caring for
> > some UEFI/ACPI mess for which no source code is normally available and
> > nobody really known at which point the various vendors have forked their
> > source code from some Intel or AMD or whatever reference code?
>
> I am sorry I don't know UEFI/ACPI well enough to discuss it.
>
> > IMHO we should care for the multiple reason I have already written in my
> > previous emails.
> >
> > And honestly, just as a side comment, I would feel way more happy
> > to know that the elevator control system in the elevator I use everyday
> > or the chemical industrial plan HMI next to my home is running an up to
> > date Linux system that is not affected by known security vulnerabilities
> > and they did stop updating it just because there was some random bug
> > preventing the updated kernel to boot and nobody had the time/skill to
> > investigate and fix it. [1]
>
> The issue comes from a very specific U-Boot function that should have
> never existed. I hope people working on chemical plants do not make
> use of these and will not disregard the "your DT is broken there [...]"
> warning we plan to add right before their updated board will fail. We
> are not living people in the dark, I agreed for a warning, but I don't
> think applying the proposed fix blindly is wise and future-proof.
Let's move forward with this. Let's assume my fears are baseless. We
might consider the situation where someone tries to hide the partitions
by setting #size-cell to 0 even wronger and too unlikely. Hopefully we
will not break any other existing setups by applying an always-on fix.
I would still like to see U-Boot partitions handling evolve, at least:
- fix #size-cells in fdt_fixup_mtd()
- avoid the fdt_fixup_mtd() call from Collibri boards (ie. an example
that can be followed by the other users)
On Linux side let's fix #size-cells like you proposed without filtering
against a list of compatibles. We however need to improve the
heuristics:
- Do it only when there are partitions declared within a NAND
controller node.
- Change the warning to avoid mentioning backward compatibility, just
mention this is utterly wrong and thus the value will be set to 1
instead of 0.
- Mention in the comment above this only works on systems with <4GiB
chips.
If you think about other conditions please feel free to add them.
Do you concur?
Thanks,
Miquèl
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-01-05 20:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-12-02 7:19 [PATCH v1] mtd: parsers: ofpart: Fix parsing when size-cells is 0 Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-02 9:14 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 10:12 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-02 10:24 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-02 10:53 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 11:23 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-02 14:05 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 14:31 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-02 15:00 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 15:23 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-02 15:49 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 16:01 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 16:17 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-02 16:42 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 16:52 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-02 16:57 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 17:08 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-05 11:26 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-05 13:49 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-05 16:25 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-15 7:16 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-15 7:45 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-15 8:04 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-16 0:36 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-16 7:52 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-16 7:45 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-16 10:46 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-16 11:01 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-16 12:37 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-16 13:37 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-16 14:32 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-16 15:35 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-16 16:30 ` Francesco Dolcini
2023-01-02 9:40 ` Miquel Raynal
2023-01-05 11:33 ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2023-01-05 12:47 ` Francesco Dolcini
2023-01-05 14:51 ` Marek Vasut
2023-01-05 15:03 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 17:20 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-05 11:30 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-05 15:28 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 16:45 ` Francesco Dolcini
2022-12-02 17:05 ` Miquel Raynal
2022-12-02 15:56 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-12-04 12:50 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-04 12:59 ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2022-12-04 15:50 ` Marek Vasut
2022-12-02 12:43 ` Greg KH
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