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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@kernel.org>
To: Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: "x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
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	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Sami Tolvanen <samitolvanen@google.com>,
	Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>,
	Will McVicker <willmcvicker@google.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 11/11] static_call: Remove DEFINE_STATIC_CALL_RET0()
Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 11:50:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230322185039.rqwudvaqgotfnrv5@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <692cf38b-4c13-f776-4b96-5161a4cae4ae@csgroup.eu>

On Wed, Mar 22, 2023 at 03:04:31PM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
> Le 22/03/2023 à 05:00, Josh Poimboeuf a écrit :
> > NULL and RET0 static calls are both slightly different ways of nopping a
> > static call.  A not-insignificant amount of code and complexity is spent
> > maintaining them separately.  It's also somewhat tricky for the user who
> > has to try to remember to use the correct one for the given function
> > type.
> > 
> > Simplify things all around by just combining them, such that NULL static
> > calls always return 0.
> > 
> > While it doesn't necessarily make sense for void-return functions to
> > return 0, it's pretty much harmless.  The return value register is
> > already callee-clobbered, and an extra "xor %eax, %eax" shouldn't affect
> > performance (knock on wood).
> 
> In the case of powerpc, which implements out-of-line static calls for 
> now, it is more than just an extra instruction. It requires a jump to 
> the couple instructions that clear ret reg and rets. For the 8xx it also 
> means cache miss as the cache lines are 16 bytes. So what was just one 
> cycle return instruction becomes a 3 cycles + 1 cache miss. It is not a 
> show-stopper for that change, but I think it was worth mentioning.

Good point.  I should mention that (if we keep the patch).

> > This "do nothing return 0" default should work for the vast majority of
> > NULL cases.  Otherwise it can be easily overridden with a user-specified
> > function which panics or returns 0xdeadbeef or does whatever one wants.
> > 
> > This simplifies the static call code and also tends to help simplify
> > users' code as well.
> 
> I'd have expected DEFINE_STATIC_CALL_RET0() to remain, to make it clear 
> that it returns 0. As you explained, it doesn't matter what NULL 
> returns, but returning 0 is vital four RET0 cases. So I would have 
> dropped DEFINE_STATIC_CALL_NULL() and retained DEFINE_STATIC_CALL_RET0().

The issue is static_call_update().  It takes NULL as an input, which
comes in handy for many static call users.  So it makes sense to have
NULL mean "nop (and return 0 if needed)".

IMO it becomes more confusing to have two interfaces (NULL and RET0)
meaning the same thing.

-- 
Josh

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-22 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-22  4:00 [PATCH v2 00/11] static_call: Improve NULL/ret0 handling Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] static_call: Improve key type abstraction Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:53   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  5:02   ` [PATCH v2.1 " Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] static_call: Flip key type union bit Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  5:03   ` [PATCH v2.1 " Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] static_call: Remove static_call_mod_init() declaration Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] static_call: Remove static_call.h dependency on cpu.h Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] static_call: Make ARCH_ADD_TRAMP_KEY() generic Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] static_call: "EXPORT_STATIC_CALL_TRAMP" -> "EXPORT_STATIC_CALL_RO" Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] static_call: Reorganize static call headers Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] arm64/static_call: Fix static call CFI violations Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22 12:22   ` Mark Rutland
2023-03-22 14:19     ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-22 18:26       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22 18:09     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22 18:07   ` Sami Tolvanen
2023-03-22 18:33     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] static_call: Make NULL static calls consistent Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22 14:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-22 14:59   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-22 18:35     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22 15:04   ` Christophe Leroy
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] static_call: Remove static_call_cond() Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22  4:00 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] static_call: Remove DEFINE_STATIC_CALL_RET0() Josh Poimboeuf
2023-03-22 15:04   ` Christophe Leroy
2023-03-22 18:50     ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2023-03-22 15:15   ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-03-22 18:45     ` Josh Poimboeuf

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