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From: Vladimir Oltean <vladimir.oltean@nxp.com>
To: Sean Anderson <sean.anderson@seco.com>
Cc: "Vinod Koul" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"Kishon Vijay Abraham I" <kishon@kernel.org>,
	linux-phy@lists.infradead.org,
	"Madalin Bucur" <madalin.bucur@nxp.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	"Camelia Alexandra Groza" <camelia.groza@nxp.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, "Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	"Bagas Sanjaya" <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	"Ioana Ciornei" <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	"Bartosz Golaszewski" <brgl@bgdev.pl>,
	"Fernández Rojas" <noltari@gmail.com>,
	"Jonas Gorski" <jonas.gorski@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"Li Yang" <leoyang.li@nxp.com>,
	"Linus Walleij" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Shawn Guo" <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 00/15] phy: Add support for Lynx 10G SerDes
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2023 20:24:22 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230429172422.vc35tnwkekfieoru@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c7ab84b-3c4a-4e44-b5b5-4acf733a0246@seco.com> <7c7ab84b-3c4a-4e44-b5b5-4acf733a0246@seco.com>

On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 10:50:17AM -0400, Sean Anderson wrote:
> > I need to catch up with 14 rounds of patches from you and with the
> > discussions that took place on each version, and understand how you
> > responded to feedback like "don't remove PHY interrupts without finding
> > out why they don't work"
> 
> All I can say is that
> 
> - It doesn't work on my board
> - The traces are on the bottom of the PCB
> - The signal goes through an FPGA which (unlike the LS1046ARDB) is closed-source

I don't understand the distinction you are making here. Are the sources
for QIXIS bit streams public for any Layerscape board?

> - The alternative is polling once a second (not terribly intensive)

It makes a difference to performance (forwarded packets per second), believe it or not.

> 
> I think it's very reasonable to make this change. Anyway, it's in a separate
> patch so that it can be applied independently.

Perhaps better phrased: "discussed separately"...

> > Even if the SERDES and PLL drivers "work for you" in the current form,
> > I doubt the usefulness of a PLL driver if you have to disconnect the
> > SoC's reset request signal on the board to not be stuck in a reboot loop.
> 
> I would like to emphasize that this has *nothing to do with this driver*.
> This behavior is part of the boot ROM (or something like it) and occurs before
> any user code has ever executed. The problem of course is that certain RCWs
> expect the reference clocks to be in certain (incompatible) configurations,
> and will fail the boot without a lock. I think this is rather silly (since
> you only need PLL lock when you actually want to use the serdes), but that's
> how it is. And of course, this is only necessary because I was unable to get
> major reconfiguration to work. In an ideal world, you could always boot with
> the same RCW (with PLL config matching the board) and choose the major protocol
> at runtime.

Could you please tell me what are the reference clock frequencies that
your board provides at boot time to the 2 PLLs, and which SERDES
protocol out of those 2 (1133 and 3333) boots correctly (no RESET_REQ
hacks necessary) with those refclks? I will try to get a LS1046A-QDS
where I boot from the same refclk + SERDES protocol configuration as
you, and use PBI commands in the RCW to reconfigure the lanes (PLL
selection and protocol registers) for the other mode, while keeping the
FRATE_SEL of the PLLs unmodified.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-04-29 17:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-13 16:05 [PATCH v14 00/15] phy: Add support for Lynx 10G SerDes Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 01/15] dt-bindings: phy: Add 2500BASE-X and 10GBASE-R Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 02/15] dt-bindings: phy: Add Lynx 10G phy binding Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 03/15] dt-bindings: Convert gpio-mmio to yaml Sean Anderson
2023-04-18 20:37   ` Rob Herring
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 04/15] dt-bindings: gpio-mmio: Add compatible for QIXIS Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 05/15] dt-bindings: clock: Add ids for Lynx 10g PLLs Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 06/15] clk: Add Lynx 10G SerDes PLL driver Sean Anderson
     [not found]   ` <ZFi9t84UoIfUyHhi@matsya>
     [not found]     ` <1012f955-180e-0013-cc13-1da10991b5f5@seco.com>
     [not found]       ` <ZFpD4I2LK9YIQQat@matsya>
     [not found]         ` <d230c641-7270-c768-fd48-9012c01621b2@seco.com>
2023-05-16 13:22           ` Vinod Koul
2023-05-16 15:11             ` Sean Anderson
2023-05-16 16:32               ` Vinod Koul
2023-04-13 16:05 ` [PATCH v14 07/15] phy: fsl: Add Lynx 10G SerDes driver Sean Anderson
     [not found]   ` <ZFi/Y7wcad4hrAMe@matsya>
     [not found]     ` <957a6bb4-f07b-f511-72c9-da4199dc8616@seco.com>
2023-05-16 13:36       ` Vinod Koul
2023-05-16 15:12         ` Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 08/15] phy: lynx10g: Enable by default on Layerscape Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 09/15] arm64: dts: ls1046a: Add serdes nodes Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 10/15] arm64: dts: ls1046ardb: Add serdes descriptions Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 11/15] arm64: dts: ls1088a: Add serdes nodes Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 12/15] arm64: dts: ls1088a: Prevent PCSs from probing as phys Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 13/15] arm64: dts: ls1088ardb: Remove aquantia interrupt Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 14/15] arm64: dts: ls1088ardb: Add SFP cage Sean Anderson
2023-04-13 16:06 ` [PATCH v14 15/15] arm64: dts: ls1088ardb: Add serdes descriptions Sean Anderson
2023-04-25 19:50 ` [PATCH v14 00/15] phy: Add support for Lynx 10G SerDes Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-25 20:22   ` Sean Anderson
2023-04-26 10:51     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-04-26 14:50       ` Sean Anderson
2023-04-29 17:24         ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2023-05-01 15:03           ` Sean Anderson
2023-05-22 14:42             ` Sean Anderson
2023-05-22 15:00               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-09 19:19                 ` Sean Anderson
     [not found]                   ` <20230610222123.mzmfjx7zfw4nh2lo@skbuf>
2023-06-12 14:35                     ` Sean Anderson
2023-06-12 16:33                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-12 20:46                         ` Sean Anderson
2023-06-13 14:27                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-10 10:26                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-10 19:58                               ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-11 16:12                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-09-13 22:02                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-11 15:08                             ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-11 15:43                               ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-11 16:36                                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-21 12:49                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-21 17:45                                     ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-21 18:13                                       ` Ioana Ciornei
2023-08-21 18:20                                         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-21 18:46                                         ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-21 19:58                                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-21 21:06                                             ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-21 22:48                                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-21 23:39                                                 ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-21 23:59                                                   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-24 22:09                                                     ` Sean Anderson
2023-08-25 14:43                                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-08-22 14:55                                           ` Ioana Ciornei
2023-08-24 20:54                                             ` Sean Anderson

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