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From: Vladimir Oltean <olteanv@gmail.com>
To: "Arınç ÜNAL" <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
Cc: Sean Wang <sean.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Landen Chao <Landen.Chao@mediatek.com>,
	DENG Qingfang <dqfext@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Golle <daniel@makrotopia.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 05/30] net: dsa: mt7530: read XTAL value from correct register
Date: Thu, 25 May 2023 16:31:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230525133140.xewm6g5rl7sm57d2@skbuf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7c915d5b-56c9-430d-05ac-544f76966eb1@arinc9.com>

On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 09:20:08AM +0300, Arınç ÜNAL wrote:
> On 24.05.2023 19:57, Vladimir Oltean wrote:
> > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 03:15:07PM +0300, arinc9.unal@gmail.com wrote:
> > > From: Arınç ÜNAL <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
> > > 
> > > On commit 7ef6f6f8d237 ("net: dsa: mt7530: Add MT7621 TRGMII mode support")
> > > macros for reading the crystal frequency were added under the MT7530_HWTRAP
> > > register. However, the value given to the xtal variable on
> > > mt7530_pad_clk_setup() is read from the MT7530_MHWTRAP register instead.
> > > 
> > > Although the document MT7621 Giga Switch Programming Guide v0.3 states that
> > > the value can be read from both registers, use the register where the
> > > macros were defined under.
> > > 
> > > Tested-by: Arınç ÜNAL <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Arınç ÜNAL <arinc.unal@arinc9.com>
> > > ---
> > 
> > I'm sorry, but I refuse this patch, mainly as a matter of principle -
> > because that's just not how we do things, and you need to understand why.
> > 
> > The commit title ("read XTAL value from correct register") claims that
> > the process of reading a field which cannot be changed by software is
> > any more correct when it is read from HWTRAP rather than MHWTRAP
> > (modified HWTRAP).
> > 
> > Your justification is that it's confusing to you if two registers have
> > the same layout, and the driver has a single set of macros to decode the
> > fields from both. You seem to think it's somehow not correct to decode
> > fields from the MHWTRAP register using macros which have just HWTRAP in
> > the name.
> 
> No, it doesn't confuse me that two registers share the same layout. My
> understanding was that the MHWTRAP register should be used for modifying the
> hardware trap, and the HWTRAP register should be used for reading from the
> hardware trap.

My understanding is that reading from the read-only HWTRAP always gives
you the power-on settings, while reading from the r/w MHWTRAP always
gives you the current settings. If those settings coincide, as happens
here, there's no practical difference.

> I see that the XTAL constants were defined under the HWTRAP
> register so I thought it would make sense to change the code to read the
> XTAL values from the HWTRAP register instead. Let me know if you disagree
> with this.

I disagree as a matter of principle with the reasoning. The fact that
XTAL constants are defined under HWTRAP is not a reason to change the
code to read the XTAL values from the HWTRAP register. The fact that
XTAL_FSEL is read-only in MHWTRAP is indeed a reason why you *could*
read it from HWTRAP, but also not one why you *should* make a change.

> > Seriously, please first share these small rewrites with someone more
> > senior than you, and ask for a preliminary second opinion.
> 
> Would submitting this as an RFC had been a similar action to your describing
> here? Because I already did that:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/netdev/20230421143648.87889-6-arinc.unal@arinc9.com/

In practice, volume is also an issue. The higher the volume, the lower
the chances that people will be able to crop a chunk of time large enough
to review.

> I should've given more effort to explain my reasons for this patch. I
> disagree that the series is a large volume of worthless and misguided
> refactoring and am happy to discuss it patch by patch.

I agree that the follow-up patches, as far as I could reach into this
series, are not as gratuitous as this one.

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-25 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-22 12:15 [PATCH net-next 00/30] net: dsa: mt7530: improve, trap BPDU & LLDP, and prefer CPU port arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 01/30] net: dsa: mt7530: add missing @p5_interface to mt7530_priv description arinc9.unal
2023-05-23 23:29   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 02/30] net: dsa: mt7530: use p5_interface_select as data type for p5_intf_sel arinc9.unal
2023-05-23 23:31   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24  7:41     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 03/30] net: dsa: mt7530: properly support MT7531AE and MT7531BE arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 14:48   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-25  6:00     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 04/30] net: dsa: mt7530: improve comments regarding port 5 and 6 arinc9.unal
2023-05-23 23:35   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24 14:49   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 05/30] net: dsa: mt7530: read XTAL value from correct register arinc9.unal
2023-05-23 23:37   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24 16:57   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-25  6:20     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-25 13:31       ` Vladimir Oltean [this message]
2023-06-04  6:34         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04  7:11           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04 16:22             ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 06/30] net: dsa: mt7530: improve code path for setting up port 5 arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 17:35   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-25  6:42     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 07/30] net: dsa: mt7530: do not run mt7530_setup_port5() if port 5 is disabled arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 17:45   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 08/30] net: dsa: mt7530: change p{5,6}_interface to p{5,6}_configured arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 17:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-25  6:49     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-26 13:01       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-03 12:15         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-03 12:26           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04 10:46             ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04 12:18               ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04 12:55                 ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04 13:07                   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04 13:14                     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04 13:25                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04 15:13                       ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04 16:00                         ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04 16:06                           ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04 16:14                             ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-10 10:57                               ` Arınç ÜNAL
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     [not found]                                   ` <22fba48c-054d-ff0a-ae2c-b38f192b26f7@arinc9.com>
2024-01-10 11:15                                     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-01-10 14:27                                       ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-01-10 17:15                                         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2024-01-10 18:05                                           ` Vladimir Oltean
2024-01-10 18:31                                             ` Russell King (Oracle)
2024-01-11  9:19                                               ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-05 14:36                         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-03 12:27           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 09/30] net: dsa: mt7530: empty default case on mt7530_setup_port5() arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 18:04   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-24 18:05   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-25  6:51     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 10/30] net: dsa: mt7530: call port 6 setup from mt7530_mac_config() arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 18:08   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 11/30] net: dsa: mt7530: remove pad_setup function pointer arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 18:09   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 12/30] net: dsa: mt7530: move XTAL check to mt7530_setup() arinc9.unal
2023-05-23 23:40   ` Andrew Lunn
2023-05-24 18:15   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-25  7:04     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 13/30] net: dsa: mt7530: move enabling port 6 to mt7530_setup_port6() arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 14/30] net: dsa: mt7530: switch to if/else statements on mt7530_setup_port6() arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 13:08   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 15/30] net: dsa: mt7530: set TRGMII RD TAP if trgmii is being used arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 13:09   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 16/30] net: dsa: mt7530: move lowering port 5 RGMII driving to mt7530_setup() arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 13:17   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04  7:05     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04  7:14       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 17/30] net: dsa: mt7530: fix port capabilities for MT7988 arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 13:20   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 18/30] net: dsa: mt7530: remove .mac_port_config for MT7988 and make it optional arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 13:21   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 19/30] net: dsa: mt7530: set interrupt register only for MT7530 arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 13:25   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04  7:18     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 20/30] net: dsa: mt7530: properly reset MT7531 switch arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 21/30] net: dsa: mt7530: get rid of useless error returns on phylink code path arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 22/30] net: dsa: mt7530: rename p5_intf_sel and use only for MT7530 switch arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 23/30] net: dsa: mt7530: run mt7530_pll_setup() only with 40 MHz XTAL arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 24/30] net: dsa: mt7530: rename MT7530_MFC to MT753X_MFC arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 15:42   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-26 15:50     ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-06-04  8:06       ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04 13:17         ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04 13:25           ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 25/30] net: dsa: mt7530: properly set MT7531_CPU_PMAP arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 15:51   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04  8:21     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04 13:08       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04 13:33         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 26/30] net: dsa: mt7530: properly set MT7530_CPU_PORT arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 16:55   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04  8:33     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 27/30] net: dsa: mt7530: introduce BPDU trapping for MT7530 switch arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 17:02   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04  8:51     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04  9:23       ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04  9:39         ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-06-04 12:47           ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-10  8:32             ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 28/30] net: dsa: mt7530: introduce LLDP frame trapping arinc9.unal
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 29/30] net: dsa: introduce preferred_default_local_cpu_port and use on MT7530 arinc9.unal
2023-05-26 17:17   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-06-04 10:02     ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 12:15 ` [PATCH net-next 30/30] MAINTAINERS: add me as maintainer of MEDIATEK SWITCH DRIVER arinc9.unal
2023-05-24 14:37   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-26 17:38   ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 12:25 ` [PATCH net-next 00/30] net: dsa: mt7530: improve, trap BPDU & LLDP, and prefer CPU port Andrew Lunn
2023-05-22 13:37   ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 15:43     ` Vladimir Oltean
2023-05-22 14:09 ` Horatiu Vultur
2023-05-22 14:35   ` Arınç ÜNAL
2023-05-22 18:13   ` Russell King (Oracle)
2023-05-23  1:54     ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-05-26 17:47 ` Vladimir Oltean

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