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From: Francesco Dolcini <francesco@dolcini.it>
To: Stefan Eichenberger <eichest@gmail.com>
Cc: o.rempel@pengutronix.de, kernel@pengutronix.de,
	andi.shyti@kernel.org, shawnguo@kernel.org,
	s.hauer@pengutronix.de, festevam@gmail.com, jic23@kernel.org,
	lars@metafoo.de, nuno.sa@analog.com,
	andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com, marcelo.schmitt@analog.com,
	gnstark@salutedevices.com, francesco.dolcini@toradex.com,
	wsa+renesas@sang-engineering.com, andrew@lunn.ch,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-iio@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Eichenberger <stefan.eichenberger@toradex.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] i2c: imx: avoid rescheduling when waiting for bus not busy
Date: Fri, 21 Jun 2024 19:24:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240621172421.GA11258@francesco-nb> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZnWaxtfgmLk3SplP@eichest-laptop>

Hello Stefan,

On Fri, Jun 21, 2024 at 05:22:46PM +0200, Stefan Eichenberger wrote:
> Hi Andi, Andrew, Wolfram, Oleksij,
> 
> After some internal discussion we still have some questions which are
> blocking us from solving the issue.
> 
> On Fri, May 31, 2024 at 04:24:37PM +0200, Stefan Eichenberger wrote:
> > From: Stefan Eichenberger <stefan.eichenberger@toradex.com>
> > 
> > On our i.MX8M Mini based module we have an ADS1015 I2C ADC connected to
> > the I2C bus. The ADS1015 I2C ADC will timeout after 25ms when the I2C
> > bus is idle. The imx i2c driver will call schedule when waiting for the
> > bus to become idle after switching to master mode. When the i2c
> > controller switches to master mode it pulls SCL and SDA low, if the
> > ADS1015 I2C ADC sees this for more than 25 ms without seeing SCL
> > clocking, it will timeout and ignore all signals until the next start
> > condition occurs (SCL and SDA low). This can occur when the system load
> > is high and schedule returns after more than 25 ms.
> > 
> > This rfc tries to solve the problem by using a udelay for the first 10
> > ms before calling schedule. This reduces the chance that we will
> > reschedule. However, it is still theoretically possible for the problem
> > to occur. To properly solve the problem, we would also need to disable
> > interrupts during the transfer.
> > 
> > After some internal discussion, we see three possible solutions:
> > 1. Use udelay as shown in this rfc and also disable the interrupts
> >    during the transfer. This would solve the problem but disable the
> >    interrupts. Also, we would have to re-enable the interrupts if the
> >    timeout is longer than 1ms (TBD).
> > 2. We use a retry mechanism in the ti-ads1015 driver. When we see a
> >    timeout, we try again.
> > 3. We use the suggested solution and accept that there is an edge case
> >    where the timeout can happen.
> > 
> > There may be a better way to do this, which is why this is an RFC.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Stefan Eichenberger <stefan.eichenberger@toradex.com>
> > ---

...

> > On a multimaster bus system, the busy bus (I2C_I2SR[IBB]) must be
> > tested to determine whether the serial bus is free.
> We assume this means it is not necessary to test for IBB if we know we
> are in a single-master configuration.

To me this is a very interesting option. If we can confirm that this
busy-wait-loop is not required when we have a single master
configuration we can just solve the issue in a clean way.

And once the driver knows if it is multi-master mode or not we can also
get rid of the EAGAIN that does not make any sense with single-master.
There was an old discussion with some great contribution from Oleksij on
this topic.

Francesco



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-21 17:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-31 14:24 [RFC PATCH] i2c: imx: avoid rescheduling when waiting for bus not busy Stefan Eichenberger
2024-05-31 14:45 ` Andy Shevchenko
2024-06-03  7:43   ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-06-02 14:31 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-06-03  7:34   ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-06-21 15:22 ` Stefan Eichenberger
2024-06-21 17:24   ` Francesco Dolcini [this message]
2024-06-22  5:02   ` Oleksij Rempel
2024-06-24 15:49     ` Stefan Eichenberger

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