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* [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node
@ 2024-07-10 14:19 Anand Moon
  2024-07-10 14:41 ` Jonas Karlman
  2024-07-10 14:54 ` Heiko Stübner
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Anand Moon @ 2024-07-10 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, Heiko Stuebner
  Cc: Anand Moon, devicetree, linux-arm-kernel, linux-rockchip,
	linux-kernel

Add missing pinctrl settings for PCIe 3.0 x4 clock request and wake
signals. Rename node from 'pcie3' to 'pcie30x4' to align with schematic
nomenclature.

Signed-off-by: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>
---
 .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts      | 20 +++++++++++++------
 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)

diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
index 2e7512676b7e..a9b55b7996cf 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
+++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
@@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ &pcie30phy {
 
 &pcie3x4 {
 	pinctrl-names = "default";
-	pinctrl-0 = <&pcie3_rst>;
+	pinctrl-0 = <&pcie30x4_perstn_m1 &pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1 &pcie30x4_waken_m1>;
 	reset-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PB6 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
 	vpcie3v3-supply = <&vcc3v3_pcie30>;
 	status = "okay";
@@ -340,14 +340,22 @@ pcie2_2_rst: pcie2-2-rst {
 		};
 	};
 
-	pcie3 {
-		pcie3_rst: pcie3-rst {
-			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
-		};
-
+	pcie30x4 {
 		pcie3_vcc3v3_en: pcie3-vcc3v3-en {
 			rockchip,pins = <1 RK_PA4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
 		};
+
+		pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1: pcie30x4-clkreqn-m1 {
+			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_up>;
+		};
+
+		pcie30x4_waken_m1: pcie30x4-waken-m1 {
+			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB5 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
+		};
+
+		pcie30x4_perstn_m1: pcie30x4-perstn-m1 {
+			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
+		};
 	};
 
 	usb {

base-commit: 34afb82a3c67f869267a26f593b6f8fc6bf35905
-- 
2.44.0



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* Re: [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node
  2024-07-10 14:19 [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node Anand Moon
@ 2024-07-10 14:41 ` Jonas Karlman
  2024-07-10 16:34   ` Anand Moon
  2024-07-10 14:54 ` Heiko Stübner
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jonas Karlman @ 2024-07-10 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Anand Moon, Heiko Stuebner
  Cc: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, devicetree,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-rockchip, linux-kernel

Hi Anand,

On 2024-07-10 16:19, Anand Moon wrote:
> Add missing pinctrl settings for PCIe 3.0 x4 clock request and wake
> signals. Rename node from 'pcie3' to 'pcie30x4' to align with schematic
> nomenclature.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>
> ---
>  .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts      | 20 +++++++++++++------
>  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> index 2e7512676b7e..a9b55b7996cf 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ &pcie30phy {
>  
>  &pcie3x4 {
>  	pinctrl-names = "default";
> -	pinctrl-0 = <&pcie3_rst>;
> +	pinctrl-0 = <&pcie30x4_perstn_m1 &pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1 &pcie30x4_waken_m1>;
>  	reset-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PB6 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
>  	vpcie3v3-supply = <&vcc3v3_pcie30>;
>  	status = "okay";
> @@ -340,14 +340,22 @@ pcie2_2_rst: pcie2-2-rst {
>  		};
>  	};
>  
> -	pcie3 {
> -		pcie3_rst: pcie3-rst {
> -			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> -		};
> -
> +	pcie30x4 {
>  		pcie3_vcc3v3_en: pcie3-vcc3v3-en {
>  			rockchip,pins = <1 RK_PA4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
>  		};
> +
> +		pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1: pcie30x4-clkreqn-m1 {
> +			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_up>;
> +		};
> +
> +		pcie30x4_waken_m1: pcie30x4-waken-m1 {
> +			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB5 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> +		};

Should these not be routed to the clkreqn_m1 and waken_m1 function
instead of gpio function?

E.g. something like:

		pcie30x4m1_pins: pcie30x4m1-pins {
			rockchip,pins =
				<4 RK_PB4 4 &pcfg_pull_none>,
				<4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>,
				<4 RK_PB5 4 &pcfg_pull_none>;
		};

There are other rk35xx boards where only the perstn pin is configured
and could use a similar fix.

Regards,
Jonas

> +
> +		pcie30x4_perstn_m1: pcie30x4-perstn-m1 {
> +			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> +		};
>  	};
>  
>  	usb {
> 
> base-commit: 34afb82a3c67f869267a26f593b6f8fc6bf35905



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* Re: [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node
  2024-07-10 14:19 [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node Anand Moon
  2024-07-10 14:41 ` Jonas Karlman
@ 2024-07-10 14:54 ` Heiko Stübner
  2024-07-10 16:30   ` Anand Moon
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Heiko Stübner @ 2024-07-10 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, Anand Moon
  Cc: Anand Moon, devicetree, linux-arm-kernel, linux-rockchip,
	linux-kernel

Hi,

Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2024, 16:19:56 CEST schrieb Anand Moon:
> Add missing pinctrl settings for PCIe 3.0 x4 clock request and wake
> signals. Rename node from 'pcie3' to 'pcie30x4' to align with schematic
> nomenclature.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>
> ---
>  .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts      | 20 +++++++++++++------
>  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> index 2e7512676b7e..a9b55b7996cf 100644
> --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ &pcie30phy {
>  
>  &pcie3x4 {
>  	pinctrl-names = "default";
> -	pinctrl-0 = <&pcie3_rst>;
> +	pinctrl-0 = <&pcie30x4_perstn_m1 &pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1 &pcie30x4_waken_m1>;
>  	reset-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PB6 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
>  	vpcie3v3-supply = <&vcc3v3_pcie30>;
>  	status = "okay";
> @@ -340,14 +340,22 @@ pcie2_2_rst: pcie2-2-rst {
>  		};
>  	};
>  
> -	pcie3 {
> -		pcie3_rst: pcie3-rst {
> -			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> -		};
> -
> +	pcie30x4 {
>  		pcie3_vcc3v3_en: pcie3-vcc3v3-en {
>  			rockchip,pins = <1 RK_PA4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
>  		};
> +
> +		pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1: pcie30x4-clkreqn-m1 {
> +			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_up>;
> +		};
> +
> +		pcie30x4_waken_m1: pcie30x4-waken-m1 {
> +			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB5 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> +		};
> +
> +		pcie30x4_perstn_m1: pcie30x4-perstn-m1 {
> +			rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> +		};

I'm not sure what you're going for here, but defining them as gpio makes
them essentially unused? Shouldn't they go to the pcie controller?

From what I found for example
The PERST# signal is used to indicate when the power supply is within its specified voltage tolerance and is stable.

At least you'll need to explain more in the commit message.



Heiko





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* Re: [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node
  2024-07-10 14:54 ` Heiko Stübner
@ 2024-07-10 16:30   ` Anand Moon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Anand Moon @ 2024-07-10 16:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Heiko Stübner
  Cc: Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley, devicetree,
	linux-arm-kernel, linux-rockchip, linux-kernel

Hi Heiko,

Thanks for your review comments.

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 20:24, Heiko Stübner <heiko@sntech.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Am Mittwoch, 10. Juli 2024, 16:19:56 CEST schrieb Anand Moon:
> > Add missing pinctrl settings for PCIe 3.0 x4 clock request and wake
> > signals. Rename node from 'pcie3' to 'pcie30x4' to align with schematic
> > nomenclature.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts      | 20 +++++++++++++------
> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > index 2e7512676b7e..a9b55b7996cf 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ &pcie30phy {
> >
> >  &pcie3x4 {
> >       pinctrl-names = "default";
> > -     pinctrl-0 = <&pcie3_rst>;
> > +     pinctrl-0 = <&pcie30x4_perstn_m1 &pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1 &pcie30x4_waken_m1>;
> >       reset-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PB6 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> >       vpcie3v3-supply = <&vcc3v3_pcie30>;
> >       status = "okay";
> > @@ -340,14 +340,22 @@ pcie2_2_rst: pcie2-2-rst {
> >               };
> >       };
> >
> > -     pcie3 {
> > -             pcie3_rst: pcie3-rst {
> > -                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> > -             };
> > -
> > +     pcie30x4 {
> >               pcie3_vcc3v3_en: pcie3-vcc3v3-en {
> >                       rockchip,pins = <1 RK_PA4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> >               };
> > +
> > +             pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1: pcie30x4-clkreqn-m1 {
> > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_up>;
> > +             };
> > +
> > +             pcie30x4_waken_m1: pcie30x4-waken-m1 {
> > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB5 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> > +             };
> > +
> > +             pcie30x4_perstn_m1: pcie30x4-perstn-m1 {
> > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> > +             };
>
> I'm not sure what you're going for here, but defining them as gpio makes
> them essentially unused? Shouldn't they go to the pcie controller?
>

Ok, Each component of PCIe communication to have the following
control signals #PERST # WAKE and CLKREQ from root complex to endpoint.

> From what I found for example
> The PERST# signal is used to indicate when the power supply is within its specified voltage tolerance and is stable.
>

PERST is referred to as a fundamental reset. PERST should be held low
until all the power rails
in the system and the reference clock are stable. A transition from
low to high in this signal usually
indicates the beginning of link initialization.

> At least you'll need to explain more in the commit message.
>
Ok,
WAKE and CLKREQ signals are used to transition to and from low-power states.
WAKE signal is an active-low signal that is used to return the PCIe
interface to an active state
when in a low-power state.
CLKREQ signal is also an active-low signal and is used to request the
reference clock.
>
I will work on and update in the next version.
>
> Heiko

Thanks
-Anand


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* Re: [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node
  2024-07-10 14:41 ` Jonas Karlman
@ 2024-07-10 16:34   ` Anand Moon
  2024-07-11  4:39     ` Anand Moon
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Anand Moon @ 2024-07-10 16:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonas Karlman
  Cc: Heiko Stuebner, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley,
	devicetree, linux-arm-kernel, linux-rockchip, linux-kernel

Hi Jonas,

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 20:11, Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se> wrote:
>
> Hi Anand,
>
> On 2024-07-10 16:19, Anand Moon wrote:
> > Add missing pinctrl settings for PCIe 3.0 x4 clock request and wake
> > signals. Rename node from 'pcie3' to 'pcie30x4' to align with schematic
> > nomenclature.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>
> > ---
> >  .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts      | 20 +++++++++++++------
> >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> >
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > index 2e7512676b7e..a9b55b7996cf 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ &pcie30phy {
> >
> >  &pcie3x4 {
> >       pinctrl-names = "default";
> > -     pinctrl-0 = <&pcie3_rst>;
> > +     pinctrl-0 = <&pcie30x4_perstn_m1 &pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1 &pcie30x4_waken_m1>;
> >       reset-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PB6 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> >       vpcie3v3-supply = <&vcc3v3_pcie30>;
> >       status = "okay";
> > @@ -340,14 +340,22 @@ pcie2_2_rst: pcie2-2-rst {
> >               };
> >       };
> >
> > -     pcie3 {
> > -             pcie3_rst: pcie3-rst {
> > -                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> > -             };
> > -
> > +     pcie30x4 {
> >               pcie3_vcc3v3_en: pcie3-vcc3v3-en {
> >                       rockchip,pins = <1 RK_PA4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> >               };
> > +
> > +             pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1: pcie30x4-clkreqn-m1 {
> > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_up>;
> > +             };
> > +
> > +             pcie30x4_waken_m1: pcie30x4-waken-m1 {
> > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB5 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> > +             };
>
> Should these not be routed to the clkreqn_m1 and waken_m1 function
> instead of gpio function?
>
> E.g. something like:
>
>                 pcie30x4m1_pins: pcie30x4m1-pins {
>                         rockchip,pins =
>                                 <4 RK_PB4 4 &pcfg_pull_none>,
>                                 <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>,
>                                 <4 RK_PB5 4 &pcfg_pull_none>;
>                 };
>
> There are other rk35xx boards where only the perstn pin is configured
> and could use a similar fix.
>

I understand this grouping for Gpio, but I am not very familiar with
this feature.

> Regards,
> Jonas
>
Thanks
-Anand


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* Re: [PATCH v1] arm64: dts: rockchip: Add missing pinctrl for PCIe30x4 node
  2024-07-10 16:34   ` Anand Moon
@ 2024-07-11  4:39     ` Anand Moon
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Anand Moon @ 2024-07-11  4:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonas Karlman
  Cc: Heiko Stuebner, Rob Herring, Krzysztof Kozlowski, Conor Dooley,
	devicetree, linux-arm-kernel, linux-rockchip, linux-kernel

Hi Jonas,

On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 22:04, Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Jonas,
>
> On Wed, 10 Jul 2024 at 20:11, Jonas Karlman <jonas@kwiboo.se> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Anand,
> >
> > On 2024-07-10 16:19, Anand Moon wrote:
> > > Add missing pinctrl settings for PCIe 3.0 x4 clock request and wake
> > > signals. Rename node from 'pcie3' to 'pcie30x4' to align with schematic
> > > nomenclature.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Anand Moon <linux.amoon@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  .../boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts      | 20 +++++++++++++------
> > >  1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > > index 2e7512676b7e..a9b55b7996cf 100644
> > > --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > > +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588-rock-5b.dts
> > > @@ -301,7 +301,7 @@ &pcie30phy {
> > >
> > >  &pcie3x4 {
> > >       pinctrl-names = "default";
> > > -     pinctrl-0 = <&pcie3_rst>;
> > > +     pinctrl-0 = <&pcie30x4_perstn_m1 &pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1 &pcie30x4_waken_m1>;
> > >       reset-gpios = <&gpio4 RK_PB6 GPIO_ACTIVE_HIGH>;
> > >       vpcie3v3-supply = <&vcc3v3_pcie30>;
> > >       status = "okay";
> > > @@ -340,14 +340,22 @@ pcie2_2_rst: pcie2-2-rst {
> > >               };
> > >       };
> > >
> > > -     pcie3 {
> > > -             pcie3_rst: pcie3-rst {
> > > -                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> > > -             };
> > > -
> > > +     pcie30x4 {
> > >               pcie3_vcc3v3_en: pcie3-vcc3v3-en {
> > >                       rockchip,pins = <1 RK_PA4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>;
> > >               };
> > > +
> > > +             pcie30x4_clkreqn_m1: pcie30x4-clkreqn-m1 {
> > > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB4 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_up>;
> > > +             };
> > > +
> > > +             pcie30x4_waken_m1: pcie30x4-waken-m1 {
> > > +                     rockchip,pins = <4 RK_PB5 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_down>;
> > > +             };
> >
> > Should these not be routed to the clkreqn_m1 and waken_m1 function
> > instead of gpio function?
> >
> > E.g. something like:
> >
> >                 pcie30x4m1_pins: pcie30x4m1-pins {
> >                         rockchip,pins =
> >                                 <4 RK_PB4 4 &pcfg_pull_none>,
> >                                 <4 RK_PB6 RK_FUNC_GPIO &pcfg_pull_none>,
> >                                 <4 RK_PB5 4 &pcfg_pull_none>;
> >                 };
> >
> > There are other rk35xx boards where only the perstn pin is configured
> > and could use a similar fix.
> >
>
> I understand this grouping for Gpio, but I am not very familiar with
> this feature.

Already we have a group of this pincrtl in the pinctrl.dtsi,
I will use this in my patch.

[0] https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3588s-pinctrl.dtsi?h=v6.10-rc7#n1775

Thanks for the tip.

Thanks
-Anand


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2024-07-10 16:34   ` Anand Moon
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