From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
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Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_NEST_PARENT
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2024 11:35:28 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240813143528.GV8378@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e4116985-f8af-4a2b-af32-d9793e94ead7@arm.com>
On Fri, Aug 09, 2024 at 07:34:20PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> > However, the above was matching how the driver already worked (ie the
> > old arm_smmu_enable_nesting()) where just asking for a normal S2 was
> > gated only by FEAT_S2.
>
> Ohhhh, I see, so actually the same old subtlety is still there -
> ALLOC_NEST_PARENT isn't a definite "allocate the parent domain for my nested
> setup", it's "allocate a domain which will be capable of being upgraded to
> nesting later *if* I choose to do so".
Yes. All PAGING type domains are expected to be able to be attached
nakedly without creating the DOMAIN_NESTED.
> Is the intent that someone could still use this if they had no
> intention of nesting but just wanted to ensure S2 format for their
> single stage of translation for some reason?
Sort of, yes..
When booting a VM with DMA default to bypass there are two flows for
the time before the vIOMMU is enabled.
The first flow is to allocate the S2 NESTING_PARENT and attach it
directly to the RID. This is a normal S2 paging domain. The VMM would
later switch to a DOMAIN_NESTED (maybe with bypass) when the vIOMMU is
enabled by the VM and the vSTEs are parsed.
The second flow, which is probably going to be the better way, is the
VMM will create a DOMAIN_NESTED with a bypass vSTE and attach that
instead of directly attaching the S2.
When we worked through VIOMMU it turned out we always want the
DOMAIN_NESTED to be the attached domain and the bypass/abort cases are
handled through vSTE settings instead of naked domains. This allows
the VIOMMU object to always be associated with the SID which is how we
will link the event queues, the VMID and so on.
> It remains somewhat confusing since S2 domains on S2-only SMMUs are
> still fundamentally incapable of ever becoming a nested parent, but
> admittedly I'm struggling to think of a name which would be more
> accurate while still generic, so maybe it's OK...
I think for now we can block it, as we know no use case to request
NESTING_PARENT without intending to go on and create a DOMAIN_NESTED.
Someday we may want to allow userspace to specify the page table
parameters more exactly and that might be a good API to also force a
S2 if someone has a (performance?) use case for S2 outside of nesting.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-13 14:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-06 23:41 [PATCH 0/8] Initial support for SMMUv3 nested translation Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 1/8] vfio: Remove VFIO_TYPE1_NESTING_IOMMU Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-07 17:52 ` Alex Williamson
2024-08-20 8:23 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 2/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Use S2FWB when available Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 14:26 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-09 15:12 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-15 16:14 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-15 16:18 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-20 8:30 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-20 12:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-20 13:01 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-20 19:52 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-20 20:21 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-21 9:53 ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-21 12:06 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 3/8] ACPI/IORT: Support CANWBS memory access flag Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 14:36 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-09 14:59 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 15:15 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-09 20:14 ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 4/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Report IOMMU_CAP_ENFORCE_CACHE_COHERENCY for CANWBS Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 5/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO via struct arm_smmu_hw_info Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_NEST_PARENT Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 15:06 ` Robin Murphy
2024-08-09 16:09 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 18:34 ` Robin Murphy
2024-08-13 14:35 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 7/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support IOMMU_DOMAIN_NESTED Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-09 16:05 ` Robin Murphy
2024-08-09 18:03 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-06 23:41 ` [PATCH 8/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add arm_smmu_cache_invalidate_user Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-20 8:20 ` [PATCH 0/8] Initial support for SMMUv3 nested translation Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-20 15:24 ` Nicolin Chen
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