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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Shameerali Kolothum Thodi <shameerali.kolothum.thodi@huawei.com>
Cc: Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 6/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO via struct arm_smmu_hw_info
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2024 09:01:03 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240904120103.GB3915968@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9e8153c95b664726bd7fcb6d0605610a@huawei.com>

On Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 07:11:19AM +0000, Shameerali Kolothum Thodi wrote:

> > On Tue, Sep 03, 2024 at 08:34:17AM +0000, Mostafa Saleh wrote:
> > 
> > > > > For example, KVM doesn’t allow reading reading the CPU system
> > > > > registers to know if SVE(or other features) is supported but hides
> > > > > that by a CAP in KVM_CHECK_EXTENSION
> > > >
> > > > Do you know why?
> > >
> > > I am not really sure, but I believe it’s a useful abstraction
> > 
> > It seems odd to me, unpriv userspace can look in /proc/cpuinfo and see
> > SEV, why would kvm hide the same information behind a
> > CAP_SYS_ADMIN/whatever check?
> 
> I don’t think KVM hides SVE always. It also depends on whether the
> VMM has requested sve for a specific Guest or not(Qemu has option to
> turn sve on/off, similarly pmu as well).  Based on that KVM
> populates the Guest specific ID registers.  And Guest /proc/cpuinfo
> reflects that.
> 
> And for some features if KVM is not handling the feature properly or
> not making any sense to be exposed to Guest, those features are
> masked in ID registers.
> 
> Recently ARM64 ID registers has been made writable from userspace to
> allow VMM to turn on/off features, so that VMs can be migrated
> between hosts that differ in feature support.
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/ZR2YfAixZgbCFnb8@linux.dev/T/#m7c2493fd2d43c13a3336d19f2dc06a89803c6fdb

I see, so there is a significant difference - in KVM the kernel
controls what ID values the VM observes and in vSMMU the VMM controls
it.

Jason


  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-04 12:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-27 15:51 [PATCH v2 0/8] Initial support for SMMUv3 nested translation Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] vfio: Remove VFIO_TYPE1_NESTING_IOMMU Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30  7:40   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Use S2FWB when available Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 19:48   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-28 18:30     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 19:47       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-28 19:50   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-30  7:44   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-30  7:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-30  8:01       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-30 15:12   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-30 16:40     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-02  9:29       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-03  0:05         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-03  7:57           ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-03 23:33             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-10 10:55               ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-10 20:22                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-17  9:48                   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-04 14:20   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-09-04 15:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-10 11:25       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-09-11 22:52         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] ACPICA: IORT: Update for revision E.f Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-29 10:14   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] ACPI/IORT: Support CANWBS memory access flag Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30  7:52   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-30 13:54     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-03  7:14       ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Report IOMMU_CAP_ENFORCE_CACHE_COHERENCY for CANWBS Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 20:12   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-28 19:12     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30 15:19   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-30 17:10     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support IOMMU_GET_HW_INFO via struct arm_smmu_hw_info Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30  7:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-30 15:23   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-30 17:16     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-02 10:11       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-03  0:16         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-03  8:34           ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-03 23:40             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-04  7:11               ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-09-04 12:01                 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2024-09-06 11:19                   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Implement IOMMU_HWPT_ALLOC_NEST_PARENT Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 20:16   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-30  7:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-30 13:55     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30 15:27   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-30 17:18     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-02  8:57       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-27 15:51 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Support IOMMU_DOMAIN_NESTED Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 21:23   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-28 19:01     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-28 19:27       ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-30  8:16   ` Tian, Kevin
2024-08-30 14:13     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30 14:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-30 16:09   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-08-30 16:59     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-30 17:04     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-02  9:57       ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-03  0:30         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-03  1:13           ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-03  9:00           ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-03 23:55             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-06 11:07               ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-06 13:34                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-10 11:12                   ` Mostafa Saleh
2024-09-15 21:39                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-06 18:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-09-06 18:49         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-06 23:15           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-08-27 21:31 ` [PATCH v2 0/8] Initial support for SMMUv3 nested translation Nicolin Chen
2024-08-28 16:31   ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-28 17:14     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-28 18:06       ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-28 18:12         ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-29 13:14           ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-29 14:52             ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-29 16:10               ` Nicolin Chen
2024-08-30  9:07                 ` Shameerali Kolothum Thodi
2024-08-30 17:01                   ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-12  3:42   ` Zhangfei Gao
2024-09-12  4:05     ` Nicolin Chen
2024-09-12  4:25     ` Baolu Lu
2024-09-12  7:32       ` Zhangfei Gao
2024-10-15  3:21       ` Zhangfei Gao
2024-10-15 13:09         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-17  1:53           ` Zhangfei Gao
2024-10-17 11:57             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-10-16  2:23 ` Zhangfei Gao
2024-10-16 11:53   ` Jason Gunthorpe

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