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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
Cc: iommu@lists.linux.dev, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@arm.com>,
	patches@lists.linux.dev, Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Remove split on unmap behavior
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 14:05:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241024130550.GE30704@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0-v1-8c5f369ec2e5+75-arm_no_split_jgg@nvidia.com>

Hi Jason,

On Fri, Oct 18, 2024 at 02:19:26PM -0300, Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> Of the page table implementations (AMD v1/2, VT-D SS, ARM32, DART)
> arm_lpae is unique in how it handles partial unmap of large IOPTEs.
> 
> All other drivers will unmap the large IOPTE and return it's length.  For
> example if a 2M IOPTE is present and the first 4K is requested to be
> unmapped then unmap will remove the whole 2M and report 2M as the result.
> 
> arm_lpae instead replaces the IOPTE with a table of smaller IOPTEs, unmaps
> the 4K and returns 4k. This is actually an illegal/non-hitless operation
> on at least SMMUv3 because of the BBM level 0 rules.
> 
> Long ago VFIO could trigger a path like this, today I know of no user of
> this functionality.
> 
> Given it doesn't work fully correctly on SMMUv3 and would create
> portability problems if any user depends on it, remove the unique support
> in arm_lpae and align with the expected iommu interface.
> 
> Outside the iommu users, this will potentially effect io_pgtable users of
> ARM_32_LPAE_S1, ARM_32_LPAE_S2, ARM_64_LPAE_S1, ARM_64_LPAE_S2, and
> ARM_MALI_LPAE formats.
> 
> Cc: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@collabora.com>
> Cc: Steven Price <steven.price@arm.com>
> Cc: Liviu Dudau <liviu.dudau@arm.com>
> Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
> Signed-off-by: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> ---
>  drivers/iommu/io-pgtable-arm.c | 72 +++-------------------------------
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 66 deletions(-)

I'd love to drop this, but I'm sure it was needed when I added it :/

My recollection is hazy, but I seem to remember VFIO using the largest
page sizes in the IOMMU 'pgsize_bitmap' for map() requests but then
using the smallest page size for unmap() requests, so you'd end up
cracking block mappings when tearing down a VM with assigne devices.

Is this what you're referring to when you say?

  > Long ago VFIO could trigger a path like this, today I know of no user of
  > this functionality.

If so, please can you provide a reference to the patch that moved VFIO
off that problematic behaviour?

Thanks!

Will


       reply	other threads:[~2024-10-24 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <0-v1-8c5f369ec2e5+75-arm_no_split_jgg@nvidia.com>
2024-10-24 13:05 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2024-10-24 13:44   ` [PATCH] iommu/io-pgtable-arm: Remove split on unmap behavior Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-01 11:54     ` Will Deacon
2024-11-01 11:58 ` Will Deacon
2024-11-01 15:37   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-01 13:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2024-11-04 11:32   ` Will Deacon
2025-07-05 20:12     ` Daniel Mentz
2025-07-07 16:05       ` Liviu Dudau

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