From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: AngeloGioacchino Del Regno <angelogioacchino.delregno@collabora.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Disable ASPM L0s
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2025 17:07:42 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250107230742.GA189563@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1a48feae-f55f-4df8-b165-84c1cb2f6658@collabora.com>
On Tue, Jan 07, 2025 at 12:44:43PM +0100, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno wrote:
> Il 07/01/25 03:18, Jianjun Wang (王建军) ha scritto:
> > On Fri, 2025-01-03 at 10:16 +0100, AngeloGioacchino Del Regno wrote:
> > > Il 03/01/25 07:00, Jianjun Wang ha scritto:
> > > > Disable ASPM L0s support because it does not significantly save
> > > > power
> > > > but impacts performance.
> > >
> > > That may be a good idea but, without numbers to support your
> > > statement, it's a bit
> > > difficult to say.
> > >
> > > How much power does ASPM L0s save on MediaTek SoCs, in microwatts?
> > > How is the performance impacted, and on which specific device(s) on
> > > the PCIe bus?
> >
> > It's hard to tell the exact number because it is difficult to measure,
> > and the number of entries into the L0s state may vary even in the same
> > test scenario.
> >
> > However, we have encountered some compatibility issues when connected
> > with some PCIe EPs, and disabling the L0s can fix it. I think disabling
> > L0s might be the better way, since we usually use L1ss for power-saving
> > when the link is idle.
>
> To actually decide, we should know what's actually broken, then.
>
> Is the MediaTek controller broken, or is the device broken?
> So, is it a MTK quirk, or a device quirk?
>
> If the problem is actually device-related, then this should be handled as
> a device-specific quirk, as not just MediaTek platforms would be affected
> by compatibility issues.
>
> If the MediaTek PCIe controller is at fault, instead, I agree about just
> disabling L0s at the controller level - but then this shall be mentioned
> in the commit message, and should have a Fixes tag as well.
100% agreed, sorry for repeating what you just said before I finished
reading the thread!
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-07 23:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-03 6:00 [PATCH 0/5] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Add MT8196 support Jianjun Wang
2025-01-03 6:00 ` [PATCH 1/5] dt-bindings: " Jianjun Wang
2025-01-03 9:10 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-06 9:26 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-06 12:27 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-07 8:43 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-07 9:02 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-01-08 6:53 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-08 7:16 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2025-01-08 7:30 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-03 9:26 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-01-06 9:19 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-07 13:04 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-01-08 7:24 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-03 6:00 ` [PATCH 2/5] " Jianjun Wang
2025-01-03 19:02 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-07 1:51 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-03 6:00 ` [PATCH 3/5] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Disable ASPM L0s Jianjun Wang
2025-01-03 9:16 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-01-07 2:18 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-07 11:44 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-01-07 23:07 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-01-03 19:15 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-07 2:44 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-07 23:06 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-06 16:09 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-01-03 6:00 ` [PATCH 4/5] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Don't reply AXI slave error Jianjun Wang
2025-01-03 9:29 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-01-06 9:27 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-03 19:19 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-06 9:31 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-06 16:16 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-01-07 3:21 ` Jianjun Wang (王建军)
2025-01-03 6:00 ` [PATCH 5/5] PCI: mediatek-gen3: Keep PCIe power and clocks if suspend-to-idle Jianjun Wang
2025-01-03 9:14 ` AngeloGioacchino Del Regno
2025-01-03 19:13 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-01-06 16:23 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
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