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From: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>
To: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
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	"Paul Kocialkowski" <paul.kocialkowski@bootlin.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 14/26] drm/bridge: add support for refcounted DRM bridges
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2025 09:11:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250314091120.366b5fd7@booty> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250313-flying-crab-of-diversity-fa1db0@houat>

Hello Maxime,

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 19:07:17 +0100
Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 13, 2025 at 12:56:56PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:
> > Hello Maxime,
> > 
> > On Fri, 7 Feb 2025 12:47:51 +0100
> > Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org> wrote:  
> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2025 at 07:14:29PM +0100, Luca Ceresoli wrote:  
> > > > DRM bridges are currently considered as a fixed element of a DRM card, and
> > > > thus their lifetime is assumed to extend for as long as the card
> > > > exists. New use cases, such as hot-pluggable hardware with video bridges,
> > > > require DRM bridges to be added and removed to a DRM card without tearing
> > > > the card down. This is possible for connectors already (used by DP MST), so
> > > > add this possibility to DRM bridges as well.
> > > > 
> > > > Implementation is based on drm_connector_init() as far as it makes sense,
> > > > and differs when it doesn't. A difference is that bridges are not exposed
> > > > to userspace, hence struct drm_bridge does not embed a struct
> > > > drm_mode_object which would provide the refcount. Instead we add to struct
> > > > drm_bridge a refcount field (we don't need other struct drm_mode_object
> > > > fields here) and instead of using the drm_mode_object_*() functions we
> > > > reimplement from those functions the few lines that drm_bridge needs for
> > > > refcounting.
> > > > 
> > > > Also add a new devm_drm_bridge_alloc() macro to allocate a new refcounted
> > > > bridge.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Luca Ceresoli <luca.ceresoli@bootlin.com>    
> > > 
> > > So, a couple of general comments:
> > > 
> > > - I've said it a couple of times already, but I really think you're
> > >   making it harder than necessary for you here. This (and only this!)
> > >   should be the very first series you should be pushing. The rest can
> > >   only ever work if that work goes through, and it's already hard enough
> > >   as it is. So, split that patch into a series of its own, get that
> > >   merged, and then we will be able to deal with panels conversion and
> > >   whatever. That's even more true with panels since there's ongoing work
> > >   that will make it easier for you too. So the best thing here is
> > >   probably to wait.
> > > 
> > > - This patch really needs to be split into several patches, something
> > >   along the lines of:
> > > 
> > >   + Creating devm_drm_bridge_alloc()
> > >   + Adding refcounting
> > >   + Taking the references in all the needed places
> > >   + Converting a bunch of drivers  
> > 
> > After reading Anusha's "[PATCH RFC 0/2] drm/panel: Refcounted panel
> > allocation" [0] I think I need a clarification about the 4 steps you had
> > outlined in the above quoted text. Are you suggesting those are four
> > _series_, and you'd want to see a series only creating
> > devm_drm_bridge_alloc() as a first step, similarly to Anusha's work?
> > 
> > That was not my understanding so far, and so I've been working on a
> > series containing all 4 items, and it's growing very long due to item 3
> > needing to touch many dozen drivers which need to put a bridge (many
> > are identical oneliner patches though).  
> 
> I believe I've clarified it already in Anusha's series, but I think a

Yes, you have...

> reasonable series for *early* work would be the bullet points 1, 2, a
> bit of 3 and a bit of 4.

...but thanks for the extra clarification.

Luca

-- 
Luca Ceresoli, Bootlin
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
https://bootlin.com


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-14  8:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-06 18:14 [PATCH v6 00/26] Add support for hot-pluggable DRM bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 01/26] drm/debugfs: fix printk format for bridge index Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:06   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 02/26] drm: of: drm_of_find_panel_or_bridge: move misplaced comment Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:20   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 03/26] drm/bridge: panel: use drm_bridge_is_panel() instead of open code Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:21   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 04/26] drm/bridge: panel: drm_panel_bridge_remove: warn when called on non-panel bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:22   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:59     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  7:25   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 05/26] drm/debugfs: add top-level 'bridges' file showing all added bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:41   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:54     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 06/26] drm/panel: move all code into bridge/panel.c Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 07/26] drm/bridge: panel: forbid initializing a panel with unknown connector type Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:44   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 08/26] drm/bridge: panel: add a panel_bridge to every panel Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:49   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:54     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07 19:43       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-10 17:11         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-10 18:34   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-18  9:43     ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2025-02-18 10:17       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 09/26] drm/bridge: move devm_drm_of_get_bridge and drmm_of_get_bridge to drm_bridge.c Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:52   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:54     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07 19:47       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 10/26] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_of_get_bridge_by_node() Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:53   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:54     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-10 18:22   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 11/26] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: use devm_drm_of_get_bridge[_by_node] to find the out_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  2:55   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:54     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-10 18:23   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 12/26] drm/bridge: allow bridges to be informed about added and removed bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  3:01   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 13/26] drm/encoder: add drm_encoder_cleanup_from() Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  3:03   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07  8:53     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 14/26] drm/bridge: add support for refcounted DRM bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07 11:47   ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-07 19:54     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-10 12:31       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-10 14:23         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-10 17:12           ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-10 18:16             ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-10 18:17           ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-10 17:12       ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-10 23:14         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-11  8:48           ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-12  0:55             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-12 10:08               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-10 17:12     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-11 13:10       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-26 14:28         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-27  9:32           ` Maxime Ripard
2025-02-27 11:31             ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-27 14:39               ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-13 11:56     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-03-13 18:07       ` Maxime Ripard
2025-03-14  8:11         ` Luca Ceresoli [this message]
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 15/26] drm/bridge: devm_drm_of_get_bridge and drmm_of_get_bridge: automatically put the bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  3:17   ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-07 10:44     ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07 19:57       ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-02-10 18:00         ` Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 16/26] drm/bridge: increment refcount in of_drm_find_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 17/26] drm/bridge: add devm_drm_put_bridge() and devm_drm_put_and_clear_bridge() Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 18/26] drm/bridge: add documentation of refcounted bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 19/26] drm/tests: bridge: add KUnit tests for DRM bridges (init and destroy) Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 20/26] drm/debugfs: bridges_show: show refcount Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 21/26] drm/bridge: add list of removed refcounted bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 22/26] drm/debugfs: show removed bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 23/26] drm/bridge: samsung-dsim: use refcounting for the out_bridge Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 24/26] drm/bridge: panel: use dynamic lifetime management Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 25/26] drm/bridge: ti-sn65dsi83: " Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-06 18:14 ` [PATCH v6 26/26] drm/bridge: hotplug-bridge: add driver to support hot-pluggable DSI bridges Luca Ceresoli
2025-02-07  9:01 ` [PATCH v6 00/26] Add support for hot-pluggable DRM bridges Luca Ceresoli

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