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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl
Date: Thu, 15 May 2025 13:06:20 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250515160620.GJ382960@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f52937c027e2fd25d76bc47f4965ba46f82c77c0.1746757630.git.nicolinc@nvidia.com>

On Thu, May 08, 2025 at 08:02:32PM -0700, Nicolin Chen wrote:
> +/**
> + * struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc - ioctl(IOMMU_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC)
> + * @size: sizeof(struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc)
> + * @flags: Must be 0
> + * @viommu_id: Virtual IOMMU ID to associate the HW queue with
> + * @type: One of enum iommu_hw_queue_type
> + * @index: The logical index to the HW queue per virtual IOMMU for a multi-queue
> + *         model
> + * @out_hw_queue_id: The ID of the new HW queue
> + * @base_addr: Base address of the queue memory in guest physical address space
> + * @length: Length of the queue memory in the guest physical address space
> + *
> + * Allocate a HW queue object for a vIOMMU-specific HW-accelerated queue, which
> + * allows HW to access a guest queue memory described by @base_addr and @length.
> + * Upon success, the underlying physical pages of the guest queue memory will be
> + * pinned to prevent VMM from unmapping them in the IOAS until the HW queue gets
> + * destroyed.

Do we have way to make the pinning optional?

As I understand AMD's system the iommu HW itself translates the
base_addr through the S2 page table automatically, so it doesn't need
pinned memory and physical addresses but just the IOVA.

Perhaps for this reason the pinning should be done with a function
call from the driver?

> +struct iommu_hw_queue_alloc {
> +	__u32 size;
> +	__u32 flags;
> +	__u32 viommu_id;
> +	__u32 type;
> +	__u32 index;
> +	__u32 out_hw_queue_id;
> +	__aligned_u64 base_addr;

base addr should probably be called nesting_parent_iova  to match how
we described the viommu hwpt:

 * @hwpt_id: ID of a nesting parent HWPT to associate to

> +	/*
> +	 * The underlying physical pages must be pinned to prevent them from
> +	 * being unmapped (via IOMMUFD_CMD_IOAS_UNMAP) during the life cycle
> +	 * of the HW QUEUE object.
> +	 */
> +	rc = iopt_pin_pages(&hwpt->ioas->iopt, cmd->base_addr, cmd->length,
> +			    pages, 0);

I don't think this actually works like this without an unmap
callback. unmap will break:

			iommufd_access_notify_unmap(iopt, area_first, length);
			/* Something is not responding to unmap requests. */
			tries++;
			if (WARN_ON(tries > 100))
				return -EDEADLOCK;

If it can't shoot down the pinning.

Why did this need to change away from just a normal access? That ops
and unmap callback are not optional things.

What vcmdq would do in the unmap callback is question I'm not sure
of..

This is more reason to put the pin/access in the driver so it can
provide an unmap callback that can fix it up. I think this should have
been done just by using the normal access mechanism, maybe with a
simplifying wrapper for in-driver use. ie no need for patch #9

Jason


  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-05-15 16:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-09  3:02 [PATCH v4 00/23] iommufd: Add vIOMMU infrastructure (Part-4 HW QUEUE) Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 01/23] iommufd/viommu: Add driver-allocated vDEVICE support Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:55     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 02/23] iommu: Pass in a driver-level user data structure to viommu_alloc op Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:44   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 03/23] iommufd/viommu: Allow driver-specific user data for a vIOMMU object Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:45   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:56     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 04/23] iommu: Add iommu_copy_struct_to_user helper Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:46   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 05/23] iommufd/driver: Let iommufd_viommu_alloc helper save ictx to viommu->ictx Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 17:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  2:05     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:28       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 20:56         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-26 13:30           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-27 18:41             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-30 18:27               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-30 18:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:48   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 06/23] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_struct_destroy to revert iommufd_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 18:26   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-14 19:21     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 12:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 16:55         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 07/23] iommufd/selftest: Support user_data in mock_viommu_alloc Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:49   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 08/23] iommufd/selftest: Add covearge for viommu data Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:50   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 09/23] iommufd: Abstract iopt_pin_pages and iopt_unpin_pages helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-05-14 18:45   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15  5:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 10/23] iommufd/viommu: Introduce IOMMUFD_OBJ_HW_QUEUE and its related struct Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  5:58   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:14     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:30     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:59       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-19 17:05         ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-15 15:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 17:17     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 11/23] iommufd/viommu: Add IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC ioctl Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:30   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 18:44     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  2:49       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  3:16         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  3:52           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  4:05             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-18 15:19               ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 16:06   ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2025-05-15 18:16     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 18:59       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 20:32         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:26           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  2:42     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16 13:25       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-19 17:29     ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-19 18:14       ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-20  8:38         ` Vasant Hegde
2025-05-23  1:51           ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-26 13:29             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 12/23] iommufd/driver: Add iommufd_hw_queue_depend/undepend() helpers Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 16:12   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  4:51     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 13/23] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for IOMMUFD_CMD_HW_QUEUE_ALLOC Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 14/23] iommufd: Add mmap interface Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09 14:13   ` kernel test robot
2025-05-09 19:30   ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:41   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:47   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16  4:08     ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16 13:29       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:42         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 15/23] iommufd/selftest: Add coverage for the new " Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 16/23] Documentation: userspace-api: iommufd: Update HW QUEUE Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  6:42   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 16:58   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 17/23] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Add vsmmu_alloc impl op Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:52   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:19   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 17:32     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 18/23] iommu/arm-smmu-v3-iommufd: Support implementation-defined hw_info Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:54   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:17   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 18:52     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 18:56       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 19:21         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15 19:23           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-15 20:17             ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16 13:22               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-16 17:34                 ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 19/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Use request_threaded_irq Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  7:57   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:21   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 20/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Simplify deinit flow in tegra241_cmdqv_remove_vintf() Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:00   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:27   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 21/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Do not statically map LVCMDQs Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:20   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:03     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 22/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add user-space use support Nicolin Chen
2025-05-15  8:27   ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-15 17:13     ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-16  4:00       ` Tian, Kevin
2025-05-16  4:10         ` Nicolin Chen
2025-05-09  3:02 ` [PATCH v4 23/23] iommu/tegra241-cmdqv: Add IOMMU_VEVENTQ_TYPE_TEGRA241_CMDQV support Nicolin Chen

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