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From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Niklas Cassel <cassel@kernel.org>
Cc: "Lorenzo Pieralisi" <lpieralisi@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kw@linux.com>,
	"Manivannan Sadhasivam" <manivannan.sadhasivam@linaro.org>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
	"Heiko Stuebner" <heiko@sntech.de>,
	"Wilfred Mallawa" <wilfred.mallawa@wdc.com>,
	"Damien Le Moal" <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	"Hans Zhang" <18255117159@163.com>,
	"Laszlo Fiat" <laszlo.fiat@proton.me>,
	"Krzysztof Wilczyński" <kwilczynski@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/4] PCI: dw-rockchip: Do not enumerate bus before endpoint devices are ready
Date: Fri, 30 May 2025 10:21:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250530152118.GA148072@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aDm5Osv_k-yK6Lbh@ryzen>

On Fri, May 30, 2025 at 03:57:14PM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 05:42:51PM -0500, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Tue, May 06, 2025 at 09:39:36AM +0200, Niklas Cassel wrote:
> > > Commit ec9fd499b9c6 ("PCI: dw-rockchip: Don't wait for link since we can
> > > detect Link Up") changed so that we no longer call dw_pcie_wait_for_link(),
> > > and instead enumerate the bus when receiving a Link Up IRQ.
> > > 
> > > Laszlo Fiat reported (off-list) that his PLEXTOR PX-256M8PeGN NVMe SSD is
> > > no longer functional, and simply reverting commit ec9fd499b9c6 ("PCI:
> > > dw-rockchip: Don't wait for link since we can detect Link Up") makes his
> > > SSD functional again.
> > > 
> > > It seems that we are enumerating the bus before the endpoint is ready.
> > > Adding a msleep(PCIE_T_RRS_READY_MS) before enumerating the bus in the
> > > threaded IRQ handler makes the SSD functional once again.
> > 
> > This sounds like a problem that could happen with any controller, not
> > just dw-rockchip?
> 
> Correct.
> 
> > Are we missing some required delay that should be
> > in generic code?  Or is this a PLEXTOR defect that everybody has to
> > pay the price for?
> 
> So far, the Plextor drive is the only endpoint that we know of, which is
> not working without the delay.
> 
> We have no idea if this Plextor drive is the only bad behaving endpoint or
> if there are many endpoints with similar issues, because before the
> use_linkup_irq() callback was introduced, we always had (the equivalent of)
> this delay.
> 
> Since this will only delay once the link up IRQ is triggered, it will not
> affect the boot time when there are no endpoint plugged in to the slot, so
> it seemed quite harmless to reintroduce this delay before enumeration.
> 
> But other suggestions are of course welcome.
> 
> 
> Since it seems that we can read the PCI vendor and PCI device ID, it seems
> that at least some config space reads seem to work, so I guess that we could
> try to quirk the PCI vendor and PCI device ID in the nvme driver.
> 
> The nvme driver does have a NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY quirk for some
> Samsung drive, perhaps we could try something similar to the Plextor drive?

Looks like NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY is used for Seagate (Vendor
ID 0x1bb1), Samsung (0x144d), Memblaze (0x1c5f), and HGST/WDC (0x1c58,
annoyingly not shown as reserved by
https://pcisig.com/membership/member-companies?combine=1c58) adapters.

If we can read the Vendor and Device IDs (and, I assume, BARs and
other things used by enumeration), it sounds like possibly an NVMe
issue, not a PCI issue.

If we can use NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY for this drive as well,
I think we should because it at least connects the extra delay with a
specific device.

> I don't personally have this problematic NVMe drive, so I am not able to test
> such a patch. The user who reported the problem, Laszlo, has been doing all
> the testing.
> 
> 
> Perhaps Laszlo could try something like:
> 
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/nvme/host/core.c b/drivers/nvme/host/core.c
> index 6b04473c0ab7..9c409af34548 100644
> --- a/drivers/nvme/host/core.c
> +++ b/drivers/nvme/host/core.c
> @@ -2865,6 +2865,12 @@ static const struct nvme_core_quirk_entry core_quirks[] = {
>                 .quirks = NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY |
>                           NVME_QUIRK_NO_DEEPEST_PS |
>                           NVME_QUIRK_IGNORE_DEV_SUBNQN,
> +       },
> +       {
> +
> +               .vid = 0x144d,
> +               .mn = "Samsung Portable SSD X5",
> +               .quirks = NVME_QUIRK_DELAY_BEFORE_CHK_RDY,
>         }
>  };
> 
> 
> .. with the .vid and .mn fields replacd with the correct ones for the Plextor
> drive. (Don't forget to revert patch in $subject when testing this alternate
> solution.)
> 
> I don't have a preference for either solution.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> Niklas


  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-30 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-06  7:39 [PATCH v2 0/4] PCI: dwc: Link Up IRQ fixes Niklas Cassel
2025-05-06  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 1/4] PCI: dw-rockchip: Do not enumerate bus before endpoint devices are ready Niklas Cassel
2025-05-06 11:32   ` Laszlo Fiat
2025-05-06 22:23   ` Wilfred Mallawa
2025-05-28 22:42   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-05-30 13:57     ` Niklas Cassel
2025-05-30 15:21       ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
2025-05-30 15:59     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-05-30 17:19       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-05-30 17:24         ` Niklas Cassel
2025-05-30 19:43           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-05-31  6:47             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-06-03 14:08               ` Niklas Cassel
2025-06-03 18:12                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-06-04 11:40                   ` Niklas Cassel
2025-06-04 17:10                     ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-06-04 18:44                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-06-05 12:28                         ` Niklas Cassel
2025-06-05 13:22                           ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-06-05 19:27                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2025-05-06  7:39 ` [PATCH v2 3/4] PCI: dw-rockchip: Replace PERST sleep time with proper macro Niklas Cassel
2025-05-06  9:07   ` Hans Zhang
2025-05-06 11:36   ` Laszlo Fiat
2025-05-06 22:24   ` Wilfred Mallawa
2025-05-06 14:33 ` [PATCH v2 0/4] PCI: dwc: Link Up IRQ fixes Niklas Cassel
2025-05-06 14:51   ` Laszlo Fiat
2025-05-13 10:53 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-05-13 14:07   ` Niklas Cassel
2025-05-15 17:33     ` Laszlo Fiat
2025-05-16 10:00       ` Niklas Cassel
2025-05-16 18:48         ` Laszlo Fiat
2025-05-19  9:44           ` Niklas Cassel
2025-05-19 12:10             ` Manivannan Sadhasivam
2025-05-19 12:37 ` Manivannan Sadhasivam

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