From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: v-songbaohua@oppo.com, zhengtangquan@oppo.com,
ryan.roberts@arm.com, will@kernel.org, anshuman.khandual@arm.com,
catalin.marinas@arm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
surenb@google.com, iommu@lists.linux.dev, maz@kernel.org,
robin.murphy@arm.com, ardb@kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] dma-mapping: Allow batched DMA sync operations if supported by the arch
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2025 16:14:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251223141424.GB11869@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4yuvHNqHDi8eN-8UoY2McoXUeCMmbjFAr=jSdv8GpGKeg@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Dec 23, 2025 at 01:02:55PM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 9:49 PM Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 22, 2025 at 03:24:58AM +0800, Barry Song wrote:
> > > On Sun, Dec 21, 2025 at 7:55 PM Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > > +
> > > >
> > > > I'm wondering why you don't implement this batch‑sync support inside the
> > > > arch_sync_dma_*() functions. Doing so would minimize changes to the generic
> > > > kernel/dma/* code and reduce the amount of #ifdef‑based spaghetti.
> > > >
> > >
> > > There are two cases: mapping an sg list and mapping a single
> > > buffer. The former can be batched with
> > > arch_sync_dma_*_batch_add() and flushed via
> > > arch_sync_dma_batch_flush(), while the latter requires all work to
> > > be done inside arch_sync_dma_*(). Therefore,
> > > arch_sync_dma_*() cannot always batch and flush.
> >
> > Probably in all cases you can call the _batch_ variant, followed by _flush_,
> > even when handling a single page. This keeps the code consistent across all
> > paths. On platforms that do not support _batch_, the _flush_ operation will be
> > a NOP anyway.
>
> We have a lot of code outside kernel/dma that also calls
> arch_sync_dma_for_* such as arch/arm, arch/mips, drivers/xen,
> I guess we don’t want to modify so many things?
Aren't they using internal, arch specific, arch_sync_dma_for_* implementations?
>
> for kernel/dma, we have two "single" callers only:
> kernel/dma/direct.h, kernel/dma/swiotlb.c. and they looks quite
> straightforward:
>
> static inline void dma_direct_sync_single_for_device(struct device *dev,
> dma_addr_t addr, size_t size, enum dma_data_direction dir)
> {
> phys_addr_t paddr = dma_to_phys(dev, addr);
>
> swiotlb_sync_single_for_device(dev, paddr, size, dir);
>
> if (!dev_is_dma_coherent(dev))
> arch_sync_dma_for_device(paddr, size, dir);
> }
>
> I guess moving to arch_sync_dma_for_device_batch + flush
> doesn’t really look much better, does it?
>
> >
> > I would also rename arch_sync_dma_batch_flush() to arch_sync_dma_flush().
>
> Sure.
>
> >
> > You can also minimize changes in dma_direct_map_phys() too, by extending
> > it's signature to provide if flush is needed or not.
>
> Yes. I have
>
> static inline dma_addr_t __dma_direct_map_phys(struct device *dev,
> phys_addr_t phys, size_t size, enum dma_data_direction dir,
> unsigned long attrs, bool flush)
My suggestion is to use it directly, without wrappers.
>
> and two wrappers:
> static inline dma_addr_t dma_direct_map_phys(struct device *dev,
> phys_addr_t phys, size_t size, enum dma_data_direction dir,
> unsigned long attrs)
> {
> return __dma_direct_map_phys(dev, phys, size, dir, attrs, true);
> }
>
> static inline dma_addr_t dma_direct_map_phys_batch_add(struct device *dev,
> phys_addr_t phys, size_t size, enum dma_data_direction dir,
> unsigned long attrs)
> {
> return __dma_direct_map_phys(dev, phys, size, dir, attrs, false);
> }
>
> If you prefer exposing "flush" directly in dma_direct_map_phys()
> and updating its callers with flush=true, I think that’s fine.
Yes
>
> It could be also true for dma_direct_sync_single_for_device().
>
> >
> > dma_direct_map_phys(....) -> dma_direct_map_phys(...., bool flush):
> >
> > static inline dma_addr_t dma_direct_map_phys(...., bool flush)
> > {
> > ....
> >
> > if (dma_addr != DMA_MAPPING_ERROR && !dev_is_dma_coherent(dev) &&
> > !(attrs & (DMA_ATTR_SKIP_CPU_SYNC | DMA_ATTR_MMIO)))
> > {
> > arch_sync_dma_for_device(phys, size, dir);
> > if (flush)
> > arch_sync_dma_flush();
> > }
> > }
> >
>
> Thanks
> Barry
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-12-23 14:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-12-19 5:36 [PATCH 0/6] dma-mapping: arm64: support batched cache sync Barry Song
2025-12-19 5:36 ` [PATCH 1/6] arm64: Provide dcache_by_myline_op_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-19 12:20 ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-21 7:22 ` Barry Song
2025-12-19 5:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] arm64: Provide dcache_clean_poc_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-19 5:36 ` [PATCH 3/6] arm64: Provide dcache_inval_poc_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-19 12:34 ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-21 7:59 ` Barry Song
2025-12-19 5:36 ` [PATCH 4/6] arm64: Provide arch_sync_dma_ batched helpers Barry Song
2025-12-19 5:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] dma-mapping: Allow batched DMA sync operations if supported by the arch Barry Song
2025-12-20 17:37 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-21 5:15 ` Barry Song
2025-12-21 11:55 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-21 19:24 ` Barry Song
2025-12-22 8:49 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-23 0:02 ` Barry Song
2025-12-23 2:36 ` Barry Song
2025-12-23 14:14 ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2025-12-24 1:29 ` Barry Song
2025-12-24 8:51 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-25 5:45 ` Barry Song
2025-12-25 12:36 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-25 13:31 ` Barry Song
2025-12-25 13:40 ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-21 12:36 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-22 12:43 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-22 14:00 ` kernel test robot
2025-12-19 5:36 ` [PATCH RFC 6/6] dma-iommu: Allow DMA sync batching for IOVA link/unlink Barry Song
2025-12-19 6:04 ` [PATCH 0/6] dma-mapping: arm64: support batched cache sync Barry Song
2025-12-19 6:12 ` Barry Song
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