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From: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
To: Barry Song <21cnbao@gmail.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Tangquan Zheng <zhengtangquan@oppo.com>,
	Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>,
	Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	catalin.marinas@arm.com, Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>,
	iommu@lists.linux.dev, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Oleksandr Tyshchenko <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, robin.murphy@arm.com,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, m.szyprowski@samsung.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/8] dma-mapping: Separate DMA sync issuing and completion waiting
Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2025 16:49:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251228144909.GR11869@unreal> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGsJ_4zyascnpQ1cB-BMO9PDeeRZTBAh8Z-j-ip=RcxApa4zSg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 10:45:13AM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 28, 2025 at 9:07 AM Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 27, 2025 at 11:52:44AM +1300, Barry Song wrote:
> > > From: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
> > >
> > > Currently, arch_sync_dma_for_cpu and arch_sync_dma_for_device
> > > always wait for the completion of each DMA buffer. That is,
> > > issuing the DMA sync and waiting for completion is done in a
> > > single API call.
> > >
> > > For scatter-gather lists with multiple entries, this means
> > > issuing and waiting is repeated for each entry, which can hurt
> > > performance. Architectures like ARM64 may be able to issue all
> > > DMA sync operations for all entries first and then wait for
> > > completion together.
> > >
> > > To address this, arch_sync_dma_for_* now issues DMA operations in
> > > batch, followed by a flush. On ARM64, the flush is implemented
> > > using a dsb instruction within arch_sync_dma_flush().
> > >
> > > For now, add arch_sync_dma_flush() after each
> > > arch_sync_dma_for_*() call. arch_sync_dma_flush() is defined as a
> > > no-op on all architectures except arm64, so this patch does not
> > > change existing behavior. Subsequent patches will introduce true
> > > batching for SG DMA buffers.
> > >
> > > Cc: Leon Romanovsky <leon@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
> > > Cc: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Ada Couprie Diaz <ada.coupriediaz@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Ryan Roberts <ryan.roberts@arm.com>
> > > Cc: Suren Baghdasaryan <surenb@google.com>
> > > Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
> > > Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
> > > Cc: Stefano Stabellini <sstabellini@kernel.org>
> > > Cc: Oleksandr Tyshchenko <oleksandr_tyshchenko@epam.com>
> > > Cc: Tangquan Zheng <zhengtangquan@oppo.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>
> > > ---
> > >  arch/arm64/include/asm/cache.h |  6 ++++++
> > >  arch/arm64/mm/dma-mapping.c    |  4 ++--
> > >  drivers/iommu/dma-iommu.c      | 37 +++++++++++++++++++++++++---------
> > >  drivers/xen/swiotlb-xen.c      | 24 ++++++++++++++--------
> > >  include/linux/dma-map-ops.h    |  6 ++++++
> > >  kernel/dma/direct.c            |  8 ++++++--
> > >  kernel/dma/direct.h            |  9 +++++++--
> > >  kernel/dma/swiotlb.c           |  4 +++-
> > >  8 files changed, 73 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)
> >
> > <...>
> >
> > > +#ifndef arch_sync_dma_flush
> > > +static inline void arch_sync_dma_flush(void)
> > > +{
> > > +}
> > > +#endif
> >
> > Over the weekend I realized a useful advantage of the ARCH_HAVE_* config
> > options: they make it straightforward to inspect the entire DMA path simply
> > by looking at the .config.
> 
> I am not quite sure how much this benefits users, as the same
> information could also be obtained by grepping for
> #define arch_sync_dma_flush in the source code.

It differs slightly. Users no longer need to grep around or guess whether this
platform used the arch_sync_dma_flush path. A simple grep for ARCH_HAVE_ in
/proc/config.gz provides the answer.

> 
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Reviewed-by: Leon Romanovsky <leonro@nvidia.com>
> 
> Thanks very much, Leon, for reviewing this over the weekend. One thing
> you might have missed is that I place arch_sync_dma_flush() after all
> arch_sync_dma_for_*() calls, for both single and sg cases. I also
> used a Python script to scan the code and verify that every
> arch_sync_dma_for_*() is followed by arch_sync_dma_flush(), to ensure
> that no call is left out.
> 
> In the subsequent patches, for sg cases, the per-entry flush is
> replaced by a single flush of the entire sg. Each sg case has
> different characteristics: some are straightforward, while others
> can be tricky and involve additional contexts.

I didn't overlook it, and I understand your rationale. However, this is
not how kernel patches should be structured. You should not introduce
code in patch X and then move it elsewhere in patch X + Y.

Place the code in the correct location from the start. Your patches are
small enough to review as is.

Thanks"
> 
> Thanks
> Barry


  reply	other threads:[~2025-12-28 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-26 22:52 [PATCH v2 0/8] dma-mapping: arm64: support batched cache sync Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] arm64: Provide dcache_by_myline_op_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] arm64: Provide dcache_clean_poc_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] arm64: Provide dcache_inval_poc_nosync helper Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] dma-mapping: Separate DMA sync issuing and completion waiting Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:07   ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-27 21:45     ` Barry Song
2025-12-28 14:49       ` Leon Romanovsky [this message]
2025-12-28 21:38         ` Barry Song
2025-12-29 14:40           ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-31 14:43           ` Marek Szyprowski
2026-01-05 12:28   ` Jürgen Groß
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] dma-mapping: Support batch mode for dma_direct_sync_sg_for_* Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:09   ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-27 20:52     ` Barry Song
2025-12-28 14:50       ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-06 18:41         ` Barry Song
2026-01-06 19:12           ` Robin Murphy
2026-01-06 19:47             ` Barry Song
2026-01-07  7:54               ` Leon Romanovsky
2026-01-07 13:16               ` Robin Murphy
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] dma-mapping: Support batch mode for dma_direct_{map,unmap}_sg Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:14   ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 7/8] dma-iommu: Support DMA sync batch mode for IOVA link and unlink Barry Song
2025-12-26 22:52 ` [PATCH RFC v2 8/8] dma-iommu: Support DMA sync batch mode for iommu_dma_sync_sg_for_{cpu, device} Barry Song
2025-12-27 20:16   ` Leon Romanovsky
2025-12-27 20:59     ` Barry Song
2026-01-06 19:42       ` Robin Murphy

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