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From: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>
To: Nicolas Frattaroli <nicolas.frattaroli@collabora.com>
Cc: "Ketil Johnsen" <ketil.johnsen@arm.com>,
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	"Florent Tomasin" <florent.tomasin@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/8] drm/panthor: Add support for protected memory allocation in panthor
Date: Wed, 6 May 2026 15:31:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260506-certain-busy-warthog-bd42d7@houat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SurytM7FTOazQNVXXqCU7g@collabora.com>

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On Wed, May 06, 2026 at 02:43:42PM +0200, Nicolas Frattaroli wrote:
> On Wednesday, 6 May 2026 12:08:24 Central European Summer Time Maxime Ripard wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, May 05, 2026 at 04:05:10PM +0200, Ketil Johnsen wrote:
> > > From: Florent Tomasin <florent.tomasin@arm.com>
> > > 
> > > This patch allows Panthor to allocate buffer objects from a
> > > protected heap. The Panthor driver should be seen as a consumer
> > > of the heap and not an exporter.
> > > 
> > > Protected memory buffers needed by the Panthor driver:
> > > - On CSF FW load, the Panthor driver must allocate a protected
> > >   buffer object to hold data to use by the FW when in protected
> > >   mode. This protected buffer object is owned by the device
> > >   and does not belong to a process.
> > > - On CSG creation, the Panthor driver must allocate a protected
> > >   suspend buffer object for the FW to store data when suspending
> > >   the CSG while in protected mode. The kernel owns this allocation
> > >   and does not allow user space mapping. The format of the data
> > >   in this buffer is only known by the FW and does not need to be
> > >   shared with other entities.
> > > 
> > > The driver will retrieve the protected heap using the name of the
> > > heap provided to the driver as module parameter.
> > 
> > I know it's what dma_heap_find asks for, but I wonder if it wouldn't be
> > better in the device tree and lookup through the device node? heaps are
> > going to have a node anyway, right?
> > 
> > This would allow you to have a default that works and not mess to much
> > with the kernel parameters that aren't always easy to change for
> > end-users.
> 
> Hopefully the kernel parameters aren't easy to change for end-users on
> systems that deploy this. :) The use-case is copy protection for embedded
> devices running on locked-down systems. Though admittedly the mechanism
> works even on "tampered"-with systems, as long as the underlying hardware
> implements the access restrictions properly.

I guess it wasn't just about the user tampering it, but also about
distros shipping, say, a signed UKI that would support multiple
platforms with 42 versions of optee but all using panthor. I'm not sure
we can expect a single heap name to work for all of them.

> I'm a bit hesitant about making this DT myself. It would solve the problem
> that panthor could probe before the heap provider and needs to handle
> deferral by itself, but it does mean that we'd be putting software
> configuration into the device tree.

Is it? If the system has a protected allocator, and if panthor
absolutely needs to allocate from that allocator, it's not software
configuration: it's a description of what the platform looks like from
Linux PoV.

Or put it differently, it's not more software than optee is, and yet it
has its own node.

> Having the secure heap be a node with no address would allow the tee
> (or whatever else) to still dynamically allocate it wherever, and let
> us handle the dependency relationship between dma heap and GPU, but
> then we require that tee heap driver implementations play nice with
> this scheme, and bring OF into the dma_heap APIs.

I mean, it's a dma_heap API that we create so we don't bring anything
more to it :)

Maxime

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-06 13:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-05 14:05 [PATCH 0/8] drm/panthor: Protected mode support for Mali CSF GPUs Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 1/8] dma-heap: Add proper kref handling on dma-buf heaps Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 15:20   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-05 15:39     ` Maxime Ripard
2026-05-05 16:40       ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 2/8] dma-heap: Provide accessors so that in-kernel drivers can allocate dmabufs from specific heaps Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 15:45   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 3/8] drm/panthor: De-duplicate FW memory section sync Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 15:47   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 4/8] drm/panthor: Add support for protected memory allocation in panthor Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 16:15   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 10:08   ` Maxime Ripard
2026-05-06 10:50     ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 13:12       ` Maxime Ripard
2026-05-06 15:05         ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 12:43     ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-05-06 13:31       ` Maxime Ripard [this message]
2026-05-06 12:28   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 5/8] drm/panthor: Minor scheduler refactoring Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 16:19   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 10:33   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 6/8] drm/panthor: Explicit expansion of locked VM region Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 16:32   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06 15:14   ` Nicolas Frattaroli
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 7/8] drm/panthor: Add support for entering and exiting protected mode Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-05 17:11   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-06  8:51   ` Boris Brezillon
2026-05-05 14:05 ` [PATCH 8/8] drm/panthor: Expose protected rendering features Ketil Johnsen
2026-05-06  9:14   ` Boris Brezillon

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