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From: Joonwon Kang <joonwonkang@google.com>
To: jgg@ziepe.ca
Cc: Alexander.Grest@microsoft.com,
	alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com,  amhetre@nvidia.com,
	baolu.lu@linux.intel.com, bp@alien8.de,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] iommu: Allow device driver to use its own PASID space for SVA
Date: Tue, 26 May 2026 12:46:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260526124645.2494330-1-joonwonkang@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260526123903.GF2487554@ziepe.ca>

> On Tue, May 26, 2026 at 12:36:06PM +0000, Joonwon Kang wrote:
> > > > From: Joonwon Kang <joonwonkang@google.com>
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2026 2:58 PM
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, May 25, 2026 at 03:29:24PM +0000, Joonwon Kang wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Currently, the only known expected user of the new kAPI is our team.
> > > > Since
> > > > > > I test if the patch resolves our problem before sending it, I believe it
> > > > > > should be good enough. Do you mean more than our team by
> > > > "accompanied
> > > > > > users"?
> > > > >
> > > > > He means you cannot send patches like this that only serve OOT drivers
> > > > > to the mainline kernel.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, it gets back to the chicken-and-egg problem. So, do you recommend
> > > > deferring the patch submission until we find a new in-tree user of the
> > > > new kAPI? I believe we will not make our module in-tree anytime soon.
> > > > Or, is it like I still can send the patch and get it reviewed although we
> > > > cannot merge it to the mainline?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > It's not chicken-and-egg problem. Just always send them together.
> > > 
> > > so let's wait until your module is ready for in-tree review...
> > 
> > Since adding a new kAPI has this limitation, what do you think about the
> > idea of adding a new boot parameter to enforce disabling ENQCMD at EL0 and
> > using the non-global PASID space in that case? This way, I guess we could
> > resolve our issue without having to wait until we have new in-tree users.
> > Do you think it should have the same limitation?
> 
> No, you can't hack up the kernel for OOT drivers.

Alright, thanks for the confirmation.

Thanks,
Joonwon Kang


      reply	other threads:[~2026-05-26 12:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-20 15:07 [PATCH v2] iommu: Allow device driver to use its own PASID space for SVA Joonwon Kang
2026-05-21  7:39 ` Baolu Lu
2026-05-21  8:25   ` Joonwon Kang
2026-05-25  8:10 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-05-25 15:29   ` Joonwon Kang
2026-05-25 16:47     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-26  6:58       ` Joonwon Kang
2026-05-26  7:21         ` Tian, Kevin
2026-05-26  8:44           ` Joonwon Kang
2026-05-26 12:36           ` Joonwon Kang
2026-05-26 12:39             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-05-26 12:46               ` Joonwon Kang [this message]

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