From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
Cc: Nicolin Chen <nicolinc@nvidia.com>,
linux-coco@lists.linux.dev, kvmarm@lists.linux.dev,
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Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
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Samuel Ortiz <sameo@rivosinc.com>,
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Suzuki K Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Xu Yilun <yilun.xu@linux.intel.com>,
Suravee Suthikulpanit <suravee.suthikulpanit@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v4 03/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add initial pSMMU realm viommu plumbing
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2026 09:52:28 -0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260907125228.GB667892@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <yq5acxupjsy2.fsf@kernel.org>
On Mon, Sep 07, 2026 at 03:15:25PM +0530, Aneesh Kumar K.V wrote:
> I looked into this, and it becomes fairly complicated. We can move all
> vdev/TDI-related code to arm-smmu-realm-v3.c, but that would result in:
I was going for the opposite, you'd move everything out of arm-smmu-v3
and into the arm-cca-host and obtain the viommu through tsm_ops not
through iommu_ops.
I guess I pointed to that in another email.
The only thing arm-smmu-v3 should provide is a simple function to give
the pdev phys and irq parameters. arm-cca-host calls that when it
creates an viommu object.
> 1. Adding more CCA-specific code to the SMMU driver.
> 2. arm-cca-host continuing to own the TSM link setup (IDE).
> 3. Adding callbacks from the device communication helpers back into
> arm-cca-host, since device communication still goes through DOE.
> 4. Moving the device communication helpers to firmware/arm-rmm and adding
> something like:
With the above change you don't need to do any of this.
> The locking also becomes more complex. Unlocking a vdev can trigger a
> stream key refresh, which is owned by arm-cca-host. Currently, the locking
> is simpler, using pci_tsm_rwsem and pci_tsm_pf0::lock. With the SMMU driver
> owning the vdev/TDI, we would have:
You can't really avoid something, the vdev *IS* the TDI and the ops to
effect it come in through the iommufd path. The ideal version is the
tdi is never used outside the iommufd path so you don't need to mesh
the locking quite as carefully.
> - pci_tsm_rwsem protecting the lifetime and registration state of
> pdev->tsm.
> - pci_tsm::tdi_lock protecting the function's pci_tdi pointer.
Like here, why is there a pci_tdi linked to pci_tsm? Anything coming
in outside the iommufd locking is very suspect.
And the iommufd locking should spill over to the TSM, you should not
be able to remove a tsm while a viommu object exists.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-09-07 12:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-27 8:53 [RFC PATCH v4 00/16] coco/TSM: Implement host-side support for Arm CCA TDISP setup Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 01/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Discover RME support and realm IRQ topology Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-29 18:22 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01 8:46 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 14:32 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 02/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Save the programmed MSI message in msi_desc Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 03/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Add initial pSMMU realm viommu plumbing Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-29 20:00 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01 9:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 10:06 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 14:34 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 17:13 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01 17:18 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-01 17:45 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 17:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 19:08 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-02 0:21 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-09-02 1:51 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-02 13:10 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 9:00 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 12:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-02 13:15 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 16:39 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-02 23:56 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 5:48 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-03 17:17 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-07 9:45 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-07 12:52 ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2026-09-09 10:09 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-09 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-10 9:52 ` Tian, Kevin
2026-09-10 12:46 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-02 19:30 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 5:28 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-03 14:47 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-03 15:13 ` Suzuki K Poulose
2026-09-03 17:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 17:36 ` Nicolin Chen
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 04/16] iommu/arm-smmu-v3: Track realm pSMMU users with refcount_t Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 05/16] coco: host: arm64: Add support for virtual device communication Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 06/16] coco: host: arm64: Add support for RMM vdev objects Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 07/16] coco: host: arm64: Add pdev stream key refresh and purge helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 08/16] coco: host: arm64: Add helpers to unlock and destroy RMM vdev Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 09/16] coco: host: arm64: Add support for da object read RHI handling Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 10/16] coco: host: arm64: Add helper for cached object fetches Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 11/16] coco: host: arm64: Fetch interface report via RMI Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 12/16] coco: host: arm64: Fetch device measurements " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 13/16] coco: host: KVM: arm64: Handle vdev validate-mapping exits Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 14/16] KVM: arm64: Unmap device mappings when a private granule is destroyed Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 15/16] coco: host: arm64: Transition vdevs to TDISP RUN state Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-04-27 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH v4 16/16] KVM: arm64: CCA: enable DA in realm create parameters Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-08-31 18:08 ` [RFC PATCH v4 00/16] coco/TSM: Implement host-side support for Arm CCA TDISP setup Jason Gunthorpe
2026-09-01 12:44 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-09-01 13:07 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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