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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 04/14] bus: mvebu-mbus: Add static window allocation to the DT binding
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2013 01:10:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2269352.fcCKFL4s2D@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130611225841.GA13892@obsidianresearch.com>

On Tuesday 11 June 2013 16:58:41 Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 12:34:14AM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> 
> > a significant waste of physical address space, because the (per-soc)
> > ranges property has to be set up for the largest possible external
> > device connected to the bus, but the mbus window only needs to cover the
> > device that is actually connected.
> 
> Yes, but perhaps that is a good argument to not put the ranges in the
> dtsi?

Fair enough. In that case not using ranges at all is probably easier
so the board file only needs to update one place.

> > I think we have to walk the entire tree of devices underneath mbus,
> > at least any device node that has a 'reg' property, following children
> > of any device node with a 'ranges' property. We might need to
> > add a variant of of_get_address() that does a partial translation
> > up to a given node (the mbus) instead of all the way to the root.
> 
> Hum, how complex do you think this is? Run down the entire tree,
> translate every regs and maintain a max offset for every target id.

It's the same thing we do for PCI.

> > > then dynamic assignment of that window
> > > makes sense to me. (however, this also looks a bit tricky, how do you
> > > avoid hitting the PCI-E window reservations, for instance?)
> > 
> > The PCI-E window would have 'ranges' but no 'regs', so we automatically
> > skip it.
> 
> The trouble is not skipping PCI-E when parsing the dt. When the
> kernel goes to make a dynamic window allocation it needs to exclude
> the address space reserved for the PCI-E aperture.
> 
> The mbus driver starts before the PCI-E driver, so how can this be
> resolved? Hardwire specialness about PCI-E into mbus?
> Make the PCI-E aperture fully dynamic?
>
> Starting to be pretty complex - for what gain?

I think this can be simplified a lot by making PCI a known special case:

We assign all regular (non-PCI) windows from the top, and whatever is
left by the time PCI comes up can be used for that, starting at the
bottom of the avaliable space.
 
> > > I'm not sure there is a good reason to reject the address map in the
> > > DT?
> > 
> > You mean keep all windows that are listed by the boot loader but
> > reassign the others? I guess it would be simpler but may result in
> > a less optimal address map.
> 
> Sure, but what does a more optimal address map get you?
> 
>  1) More space to map SDRAM - however - the SDRAM map is controlled
>     exclusively by the bootloader and the kernel doesn't have the
>     information or the code to mess with it - so this isn't possible
>  2) More space for the PCI-E aperture - this is entirely controlled by
>     the kernel, but today we are using the pre-set allocation from the
>     DT, so it doesn't matter how tightly the rest of the stuff is packed.
> 
> To me, it feels like alot of complex trouble to do actual dynamic
> allocation, and I don't really see any gain.

We could of course decide to skip the dynamic part in the Linux
implementation for the moment, but I would definitely want to
see the binding written in a way that going fully dynamic can be
done later without changing the binding if we decide we need to
squeeze out more RAM or PCI space.

	Arnd

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-11 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-07 16:47 [PATCH 00/14] MBus device tree binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 01/14] bus: mvebu-mbus: Use pr_fmt Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:56   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-08 14:15   ` Jason Cooper
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 02/14] bus: mvebu-mbus: Factor out initialization details Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 03/14] bus: mvebu-mbus: Introduce device tree binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 19:10   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 19:44     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-07 19:53       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 20:09         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-07 21:15           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-08  0:26             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-08 17:29       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 04/14] bus: mvebu-mbus: Add static window allocation to the DT binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 19:01   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 20:00     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-07 21:07       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-08 18:38       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-09  1:45         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-09 14:39           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-11 13:57           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-11 15:26             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-11 21:50               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-11 22:22                 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-11 23:02                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-11 23:08                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-12  7:37                     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2013-06-11 22:34                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-11 22:58                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-11 23:10                     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2013-06-12 11:14                   ` Grant Likely
2013-06-12 20:45                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 21:12                       ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-12 21:26                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-12 21:36                           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-12 21:52                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 22:02                               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-12 22:20                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 22:24                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-15 16:03                           ` Grant Likely
2013-06-12 20:02                 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-12 20:12                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-06-12 21:50                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 11:07               ` Grant Likely
2013-06-12 11:43                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 11:54                   ` Grant Likely
2013-06-12 11:58                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 10:52           ` Grant Likely
2013-06-09 13:42         ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-09 14:34           ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-09 15:37             ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-12 10:48         ` Grant Likely
2013-06-11 13:31     ` Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-11 15:02       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 05/14] bus: mvebu-mbus: Update the mbus-compatible node's ranges property Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-12 10:25   ` Grant Likely
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 06/14] ARM: mvebu: Initialize MBus using the DT binding Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 07/14] ARM: mvebu: Remove the harcoded BootROM window allocation Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 08/14] memory: mvebu-devbus: Remove address decoding window workaround Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 09/14] ARM: mvebu: Add MBus to Armada 370/XP device tree Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 10/14] ARM: mvebu: Add BootROM " Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 11/14] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada 370/XP DeviceBus device tree nodes Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 19:18   ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 12/14] ARM: mvebu: Remove device tree unused properties on A370 Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:56   ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-06-08 14:18   ` Jason Cooper
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 13/14] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada 370 PCIe device tree nodes Ezequiel Garcia
2013-06-07 16:47 ` [PATCH 14/14] ARM: mvebu: Relocate Armada XP " Ezequiel Garcia

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