From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F253C982FA for ; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:14:43 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lists.infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Sender:List-Subscribe:List-Help :List-Post:List-Archive:List-Unsubscribe:List-Id:In-Reply-To:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date: Resent-From:Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Owner; bh=N3zAADUWYmg6MnWP7lx8XkjYe4YOB+urybqd0LojM+g=; b=KEE/1xyFjXyQQW8rT120zWIiCm WhU0W+jGpkQLJRhTaVrhiH3Fen992PGXH6BAUfPiqXTmhA+vzeOCg44gYLJ1oyPyitSkrLIEHnb57 xSrk7HUjCSPk07fwNtIeMB72iRMsymuxMaOKwF8baJw19BqNmOIa6yDN2PH/myXCSFoEs3DMSk77x ZFuuv82DkdpLAQaGeoNqgQfI8QfSe+fUe8h8MpiStAm3jlRFLeF0pQ+hz9QIoveCd3B3uYuasDDJK CBSTg6FOFLEV72Ec0sPoGZZd+1YTIQo1QVZkHO9Ll5YMJ5Ip9IoqGReBjqKp/IuJphKzyQIjJ6QDP i+Pbs0xA==; Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=bombadil.infradead.org) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtp (Exim 4.99.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1x8zOO-00000005HCx-3d7U; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:14:36 +0000 Received: from vps0.lunn.ch ([156.67.10.101]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtps (Exim 4.99.1 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1x8zOL-00000005HCT-1x7J for linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 12:14:34 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lunn.ch; s=20171124; h=In-Reply-To:Content-Disposition:Content-Type:MIME-Version: References:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:From:Sender:Reply-To:Subject: Date:Message-ID:To:Cc:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-ID:Content-Description:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To:References; bh=N3zAADUWYmg6MnWP7lx8XkjYe4YOB+urybqd0LojM+g=; b=sABnGHj5WECTpWvSh/0ZTFobE3 t+EMo74agGY7Pbl20OtCRr2EoT105e66LwTQteIg7liCFbKJ76yQGd/dG8dU70SBjhbulh9eQ7rfv hXN5wqSs74AFco8vuoLqdcC7/l2wWz7xoqZd/b6iSrpr6t+OKmpwC0RTG0+fGHemhJfw=; Received: from andrew by vps0.lunn.ch with local (Exim 4.94.2) (envelope-from ) id 1x8zNy-006aAe-66; Tue, 22 Sep 2026 14:14:10 +0200 Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2026 14:14:10 +0200 From: Andrew Lunn To: James Hilliard Cc: Russell King , Heiner Kallweit , "David S. Miller" , Eric Dumazet , Jakub Kicinski , Paolo Abeni , Joakim Zhang , "Russell King (Oracle)" , Maxime Chevallier , Andrew Lunn , Maxime Coquelin , Alexandre Torgue , Christian Marangi , Tiezhu Yang , Huacai Chen , Richard Genoud , Alastair D'Silva , Maxime Ripard , netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-stm32@st-md-mailman.stormreply.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net 1/3] net: phylink: allow stopping a suspended instance Message-ID: <231c84e6-7ead-497e-b2f3-ef19cfa1a978@lunn.ch> References: <20260921-submit-stmmac-reset-fixes-v1-v1-0-87a4e431ee00@gmail.com> <20260921-submit-stmmac-reset-fixes-v1-v1-1-87a4e431ee00@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20260921-submit-stmmac-reset-fixes-v1-v1-1-87a4e431ee00@gmail.com> X-CRM114-Version: 20100106-BlameMichelson ( TRE 0.9.0 (BSD) ) MR-646709E3 X-CRM114-CacheID: sfid-20260922_051433_504651_46F827E7 X-CRM114-Status: UNSURE ( 8.22 ) X-CRM114-Notice: Please train this message. X-BeenThere: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: "linux-arm-kernel" Errors-To: linux-arm-kernel-bounces+linux-arm-kernel=archiver.kernel.org@lists.infradead.org On Mon, Sep 21, 2026 at 10:54:02AM -0600, James Hilliard wrote: > A MAC which cannot restore its hardware after system sleep may need to > close the network device instead of calling phylink_resume(). You need to explain this in more detail. It sounds like you are pushing a workaround for a broken MAC into the core of phylink. This is generally wrong. Andrew