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From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 08/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-xp: Relicense the device tree under GPLv2+/X11
Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 21:06:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2343908.plBCRoX2ek@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141216185550.GQ967@titan.lakedaemon.net>

On Tuesday 16 December 2014 13:55:50 Jason Cooper wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 07:31:30PM +0100, Gregory CLEMENT wrote:
> > On 16/12/2014 15:45, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 02:37:19PM +0100, Simon Guinot wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 08:03:31AM -0500, Jason Cooper wrote:
> > >>> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:22:21AM +0100, Simon Guinot wrote:
> > >>>> Hi Gregory,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> NAK for me.
> > >>>
> > >>> Well, I'm a bit surprised that this is the first one.   Care to
> > >>> explain why so that we can work towards an amenable compromise?
> > >>
> > >> Hi Jason,
> > >>
> > >> I am also a bit surprised to be the only one 
> > >>
> > >> As I have no interest in a flame war either, I am not gonna elaborate
> > >> on this. But in a few words, I don't think that allowing a permissive
> > >> licence alternative is good for software sharing (which is important
> > >> to me). 
> > > 
> > > Ok, fair enough.  I just needed to know if the NAK was against the
> > > GPLv2+ part or the X11 part.  Clearly, it's the X11 part.
> > > 
> > > So let's look at what we have (trying to stick to facts):
> > > 
> > > - alienating contributors in bad (yes, this is first)
> > > - sometimes the community has to do something a minority disagrees with,
> > >   but it should be avoided, if at all possible.
> > > - devicetree is so useful, other projects are adopting it
> > > - if our binding docs are good, rewriting dts{i} isn't hard.
> > > - rewriting dts{i} can lead to fragmentation
> > > - maintaining two devicetree trees would be a pia (X11, GPLonly)
> > > - reverting/rewriting GPLonly commits is possible, but see first bullet.
> > > - Simon may not be the only contributor who disagrees with X11.
> > > - of the known consumers of dts{i}, *BSD is the only one with licensing
> > >   issues.
> > > 
> > > So our goal is to avoid fragmentation by allowing *BSD to use our dts{i}
> > > files as is.  Our secondary goal is to avoid a maintenance headache.
> > > 
> > > Options:
> > > 
> > > - Ask Simon to find an OSI-compatible license to replace X11 that:
> > >    - *BSD can use
> > >    - meets the intent of himself and other like-minded authors
> > > - Leave licensing as is, but make a statement that *using* the dts
> > >   doesn't create a derivative work under the GPL (similar to Linus'
> > >   statement re the Linux kernel, Wolfgang and U-Boot, etc).
> > > - Screw it, plow forward, and revert/rewrite GPLonly commits
> > > - Ignore the whole issue and hope it goes away.
> > > 
> > 
> > Thanks for sum-up the situation and to offer the different choice we have.
> > 
> > > Personally, I'm in favor of the second one, and think it has the highest
> > > chance of success.  After all, ARM-based *BSD is launched from a GPL
> > > bootloader in most cases, right (U-Boot, barebox)?  Thoughts?
> > 
> > Presently I would like to have the answer about the relicesing from all the
> > author in CC. Then depending the result we will see where we should go.
> 
> Agreed.  We should keep in mind that once we have heard from everybody
> (big if), that is still only representative of armada and maybe mvebu
> ecosystem.   I'm starting to lean even more towards #2...

Looking at the commits that Simon did, it covers all the Lacie .dts files,
and one single-line change to armada-370-xp.dtsi.

I think it's definitely best to respect Simon's view on the Lacie files
and not try to undo or rewrite those. With the one-line change, there
are other options:

- Ask Simon to agree to a license change for that file
- Argue that a one-line change cannot be covered under copyright and
  change the license anyway.
- Change that line again and modify the driver accordingly

	Arnd

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-16 20:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-12-15 15:38 [PATCH 00/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-*: Relicense the device tree under GPLv2+/X11 Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 01/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 02/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:59   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 03/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-mirabox: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 04/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-netgear-rn102: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-16  6:58   ` Ben Peddell
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 05/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-netgear-rn104: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 06/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-rd: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 16:59   ` Florian Fainelli
2014-12-15 17:08     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:57   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:32   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 07/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-synology-ds213j: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 08/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-370-xp: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:53   ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 15:58     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:33   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-15 23:22   ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-16 13:03     ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 13:37       ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-16 14:45         ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 18:31           ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-16 18:55             ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 20:03               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-16 20:09                 ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 20:06               ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2014-12-16 18:44           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-16 20:30             ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-16 20:38               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-12-18 17:56     ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-18 17:59       ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-16  0:20   ` Greg Ungerer
2015-01-26 10:11   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-26 10:13     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 09/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-375-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 10/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-375: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 11/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-380: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 12/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-385-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 13/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-385: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 14/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-385-rd: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 15/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-38x: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 16/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-axpwifiap: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 17/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-db: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 18/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:53   ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 17:58   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 19/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-gp: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 20/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-lenovo-ix4-300d: " Gregory CLEMENT
     [not found]   ` <CAGHj7OKw00-YCoekDHWrz1_eu0kfxVpqNPVcKcKY0rVJ=FhT=g@mail.gmail.com>
2014-12-15 16:32     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 21/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-matrix: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 22/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-mv78230: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:58   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 18:35   ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 23/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-mv78260: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:53   ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 17:59   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 24/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-mv78460: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:54   ` Willy Tarreau
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 25/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-netgear-rn2120: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:59   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 26/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-openblocks-ax3-4: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 15:38 ` [PATCH 27/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-xp-synology-ds414: " Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 17:59   ` Arnaud Ebalard
2014-12-15 16:07 ` [PATCH 00/27] ARM: mvebu: armada-*: " Jason Cooper
2014-12-15 16:27   ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-15 19:10   ` Imre Kaloz
2014-12-15 17:21 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2014-12-15 20:56 ` Simon Baatz
2014-12-17 20:51 ` Ezequiel Garcia
2014-12-17 21:17 ` Thomas Petazzoni
2014-12-18 10:15 ` Philipp Zabel
2014-12-18 17:15 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-18 19:15   ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 14:36     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-19 16:02       ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 16:09         ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-19 17:03           ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 17:11             ` Gregory CLEMENT
2014-12-19 17:43               ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-19 18:16                 ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-21 23:50                   ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-22 11:29                     ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-22 19:14                       ` Andrew Lunn
2014-12-22 21:14                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-12-23 12:22                         ` Simon Guinot
2014-12-30 15:17                           ` Jason Cooper
2014-12-30 15:12                       ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-05 12:03 ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-06  2:05   ` Ryan Press
2015-01-06  8:42     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-08 13:57       ` Ryan Press
2015-01-07 12:47   ` Heikki Krogerus
2015-01-08 13:52     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-07 12:54   ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-08 13:56     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-21 14:00     ` Gregory CLEMENT
2015-01-23 10:54       ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2015-01-26 10:31   ` Marcin Wojtas
2015-01-14  0:20 ` Nobuhiro Iwamatsu
2015-01-14  8:11   ` Gregory CLEMENT

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