From: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
To: "Catalin Marinas" <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@infradead.org>,
"Lennart Poettering" <lennart@poettering.net>,
"Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek" <zbyszek@in.waw.pl>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
Szabolcs Nagy <szabolcs.nagy@arm.com>,
Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-abi-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm, arm64: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE)
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2022 21:39:37 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2a2becf1-fc19-a7da-deb7-1c12781d503d@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220413134946.2732468-1-catalin.marinas@arm.com>
On 13.4.2022 16.49, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> Hi,
>
> The background to this is that systemd has a configuration option called
> MemoryDenyWriteExecute [1], implemented as a SECCOMP BPF filter. Its aim
> is to prevent a user task from inadvertently creating an executable
> mapping that is (or was) writeable. Since such BPF filter is stateless,
> it cannot detect mappings that were previously writeable but
> subsequently changed to read-only. Therefore the filter simply rejects
> any mprotect(PROT_EXEC). The side-effect is that on arm64 with BTI
> support (Branch Target Identification), the dynamic loader cannot change
> an ELF section from PROT_EXEC to PROT_EXEC|PROT_BTI using mprotect().
> For libraries, it can resort to unmapping and re-mapping but for the
> main executable it does not have a file descriptor. The original bug
> report in the Red Hat bugzilla - [2] - and subsequent glibc workaround
> for libraries - [3].
>
> Add in-kernel support for such feature as a DENY_WRITE_EXEC personality
> flag, inherited on fork() and execve(). The kernel tracks a previously
> writeable mapping via a new VM_WAS_WRITE flag (64-bit only
> architectures). I went for a personality flag by analogy with the
> READ_IMPLIES_EXEC one. However, I'm happy to change it to a prctl() if
> we don't want more personality flags. A minor downside with the
> personality flag is that there is no way for the user to query which
> flags are supported, so in patch 3 I added an AT_FLAGS bit to advertise
> this.
With systemd there's a BPF construct to block personality changes
(LockPersonality=yes) but I think prctl() would be easier to lock down
irrevocably.
Requiring or implying NoNewPrivileges could prevent nasty surprises from
set-uid Python programs which happen to use FFI.
> Posting this as an RFC to start a discussion and cc'ing some of the
> systemd guys and those involved in the earlier thread around the glibc
> workaround for dynamic libraries [4]. Before thinking of upstreaming
> this we'd need the systemd folk to buy into replacing the MDWE SECCOMP
> BPF filter with the in-kernel one.
As the author of this feature in systemd (also similar feature in
Firejail), I'd highly prefer in-kernel version to BPF protection. I'd
definitely also want to use this in place of BPF on x86_64 and other
arches too.
In-kernel version would probably allow covering pretty easily this case
(maybe it already does):
fd = memfd_create(...);
write(fd, malicious_code, sizeof(malicious_code));
mmap(..., PROT_EXEC, ..., fd);
Other memory W^X implementations include S.A.R.A [1] and SELinux
EXECMEM/EXECSTACK/EXECHEAP protections [2], [3]. SELinux checks
IS_PRIVATE(file_inode(file)) and vma->anon_vma != NULL, which might be
useful additions here too (or future extensions if you prefer).
-Topi
[1] https://smeso.it/sara/
[2]
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/security/selinux/hooks.c#n3708
[3]
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/security/selinux/hooks.c#n3787
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Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-04-13 13:49 [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm, arm64: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE) Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 1/4] mm: Track previously writeable vma permission Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 2/4] mm, personality: Implement memory-deny-write-execute as a personality flag Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 17:37 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-22 10:28 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-22 11:04 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-22 13:12 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-22 17:41 ` David Hildenbrand
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 3/4] fs/binfmt_elf: Tell user-space about the DENY_WRITE_EXEC " Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 4/4] arm64: Select ARCH_ENABLE_DENY_WRITE_EXEC Catalin Marinas
2022-04-13 18:39 ` Topi Miettinen [this message]
2022-04-14 13:49 ` [PATCH RFC 0/4] mm, arm64: In-kernel support for memory-deny-write-execute (MDWE) Catalin Marinas
2022-04-14 18:52 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-15 20:01 ` Topi Miettinen
2022-04-20 13:01 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-20 17:44 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-20 19:34 ` Topi Miettinen
2022-04-20 23:21 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21 15:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 16:42 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21 17:24 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 17:41 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-21 18:33 ` Catalin Marinas
2022-04-21 16:48 ` Topi Miettinen
2022-04-21 17:28 ` Catalin Marinas
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