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From: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
To: Andrea Righi <arighi@nvidia.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ben Segall <bsegall@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>,
	Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Christian Loehle <christian.loehle@arm.com>,
	Shrikanth Hegde <sshegde@linux.ibm.com>,
	Phil Auld <pauld@redhat.com>, Breno Leitao <leitao@debian.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2026 12:02:12 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2abe03fa-63a3-4196-8869-f2372a5a13e7@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aqB05WpYBcZfIZYQ@gpd4>

Hello Andrea,

On 9/9/2026 2:19 AM, Andrea Righi wrote:
>> nit. I personally feel this can be better integrated into the
>> sched_balance_find_dst_cpu(). Something like the following:
>>
>>   (Only build tested)
>>
>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> index b8bd308c2d5b..1012dfb33f08 100644
>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>> @@ -12353,6 +12353,17 @@ static inline void update_sg_wakeup_stats(struct sched_domain *sd,
>>  
>>  	}
>>  
>> +	/*
>> +	 * If we are on a SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY | SD_ASYM_PACKING
>> +	 * domain, use the group_asym_packing classification to
>> +	 * decide placement based on rankings of idle siblings.
>> +	 */
>> +	if (unlikely(sched_smt_asym_active() &&
>> +		     (sd->flags & SD_SHARE_CPUCAPACITY) &&
>> +		     (sd->flags & SD_ASYM_PACKING) &&
>> +		     sgs->idle_cpus))
>> +		sgs->group_asym_packing = 1;
> 
> Integrating the preference in the slow-path selection sounds appealing, but I
> don't think group_asym_packing can be used as a destination classificaiton here.
> 
> The intended policy is to prefer PE0 over PE1 when both siblings of the selected
> SMT core are idle. And if PE0 is busy, PE1 should remain a valid destination. It
> shouldn't make a busy PE0 preferable to an idle PE1.
> 
> IIUC group_type is ordered for busiest-group selection, group_asym_packing
> describes a source group whole load should be moved to a "more preferred" CPU.
> Marking an idle SMT group as group_asym_packing could make it rank worse than a
> fully busy group.
> 
> Example: a fork on SMT2 can have the busy local PE0 classified as
> group_has_spare or group_fully_busy, while the idle PE1 is forced to
> group_asym_packing, sched_balance_find_dst_group() can then consider the busy
> local group the better destination and stack the new task on PE0. That may
> preserve one-thread mode for a short task, but it can also reduce throughput for
> sustained work.

Ah! Sorry for not realizing that earlier. Probably needs a special case in
"group_has_spare" instead of using the "group_asym_packing" which is always
considered busier than some other classifications but we can always work on
it later.

For now, I can confirm that this shows no performance impact on systems
I've tested this on (4th gen EPYC, and a 128C Ampere ARM server) and the
fast-paths are inlined correctly into select_task_rq_fair() so feel free to
include:

Reviewed-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>
Tested-by: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>

-- 
Thanks and Regards,
Prateek



  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-09  6:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-08  8:23 [PATCH v4 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-09-08  8:23 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: topology: Prefer PE0 on NVIDIA Olympus SMT cores Andrea Righi
2026-09-08 20:09   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-08 20:57     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-08  8:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-08 19:40   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-08 20:49     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09  6:32       ` K Prateek Nayak [this message]
2026-09-09 14:42   ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-09 15:18     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 15:42       ` Vincent Guittot
2026-09-09 16:22         ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09  7:20 ` [PATCH v4 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-09  7:26   ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-09 12:39     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-11 13:53       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-11 22:43         ` Andrea Righi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2026-09-09  6:26 [PATCH v5 " Andrea Righi
2026-09-09  6:26 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-11 14:11   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-11 22:34     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-07 16:30 [PATCH v3 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-09-07 16:30 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-04  9:18 [PATCH v2 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-09-04  9:18 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-07  3:57   ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-07  9:11     ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-07  9:40       ` K Prateek Nayak
2026-09-07  9:50         ` Andrea Righi
2026-09-07 16:48     ` Shrikanth Hegde
2026-09-08  5:37   ` Srikar Dronamraju
2026-09-08  6:12     ` Andrea Righi
2026-08-31 18:10 [PATCH 0/2] sched: Enable preferred SMT siblings on NVIDIA Olympus Andrea Righi
2026-08-31 18:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] sched/fair: Honor asymmetric SMT priority in idle selection Andrea Righi
2026-09-03 10:59   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2026-09-04  5:59     ` Andrea Righi

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