From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: Katsuhiro Suzuki <katsuhiro@katsuster.net>,
Klaus Goger <klaus.goger@theobroma-systems.com>,
linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Oskari Lemmela <oskari@lemmela.net>
Cc: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
Akash Gajjar <Akash_Gajjar@mentor.com>,
Vicente Bergas <vicencb@gmail.com>,
Tony McKahan <tonymckahan@gmail.com>,
Enric Balletbo i Serra <enric.balletbo@collabora.com>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
Shawn Lin <shawn.lin@rock-chips.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: rockchip: decrease rising edge time of UART2
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2019 14:51:32 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3054532.smugdETXvr@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01af012d-0ef0-b3af-4d14-188ff5c9a7c9@katsuster.net>
Hi,
Am Dienstag, 26. März 2019, 14:39:42 CET schrieb Katsuhiro Suzuki:
> Hello Tony, Robin,
>
> I continue to investigate UART TX rising time problem. Recently, I found
> one of cause of this problem.
>
> In my environment, this problem occurred on linux-next only. U-Boot does
> not face it. So I compared settings between U-Boot and linux-next. After
> I found GRF_IO_VSEL (address 0xff77e640) register is differ.
>
>
> Would you tell me what value is stored into this register?
>
>
> My RockPro64, initially 0x00000000 is set but 0x00000003 is set during
> linux boot. UART TX rising time becomes fine if set both bit 1 and bit 3
> or clear both bits.
GRF_IO_VSEL is the voltage-domain selection for different domains,
see the &io_domains{} node in your rockpro64 dts.
The soc needs to know with what voltage some of its inputs are
supplied.
Bits are:
0 - bt656
1 - audio
2 - sdmmc
3 - gpio1833
These bits must correspond of the voltages of their regulators,
0 for 3.3V and 1 for 1.8V.
But the vcc1v8_dvp regulator connected to the bt656 input has
not changed since the initial submission of the devicetree.
> On 2019/03/04 22:59, Katsuhiro Suzuki wrote:
> > Hello Tony, Robin,
> >
> > On 2019/03/04 5:41, Tony McKahan wrote:
> >> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 2:51 PM Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2019-03-03 6:45 pm, Tony McKahan wrote:
> >>>> Hello Katsushiro,
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 12:31 PM Katsuhiro Suzuki
> >>>> <katsuhiro@katsuster.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hello Tony,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 2019/03/04 0:13, Tony McKahan wrote:
> >>>>>> On Sun, Mar 3, 2019 at 9:04 AM Katsuhiro Suzuki
> >>>>>> <katsuhiro@katsuster.net> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hello Heiko,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thank you for comments.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 2019/03/03 22:19, Heiko Stuebner wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Am Sonntag, 3. März 2019, 13:27:05 CET schrieb Katsuhiro Suzuki:
> >>>>>>>>> This patch increases drive strength of UART2 from 3mA to 12mA for
> >>>>>>>>> getting more faster rising edge.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> RockPro64 is using a very high speed rate (1.5Mbps) for UART2. In
> >>>>>>>>> this setting, a bit width of UART is about 667ns.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> In my environment (RockPro64 UART2 with FTDI FT232RL UART-USB
> >>>>>>>>> converter), falling time of RockPro64 UART2 is 40ns, but riging
> >>>>>>>>> time
> >>>>>>>>> is over 650ns. So UART receiver will get wrong data, because
> >>>>>>>>> receiver
> >>>>>>>>> read intermediate data of rising edge.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Rising time becomes 300ns from 650ns if apply this patch. This
> >>>>>>>>> is not
> >>>>>>>>> perfect solution but better than now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Katsuhiro Suzuki <katsuhiro@katsuster.net>
> >>>>>>>>> ---
> >>>>>>>>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399.dtsi | 9 +++++++--
> >>>>>>>>> 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> your changing a core rk3399 property here, so I'd really like to
> >>>>>>>> get
> >>>>>>>> input from other board stakeholders on this before applying a core
> >>>>>>>> change.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Could you either include the submitters of other rk3399-boards
> >>>>>>>> in the
> >>>>>>>> recipient list so that they're aware or limit the change to
> >>>>>>>> rockpro64 for
> >>>>>>>> the time being (aka overriding the property in the board-dts)
> >>>>>>>> please?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> OK, I'm adding other boards members.
> >>>>>>> by ./scripts/get_maintainer.pl
> >>>>>>> arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399-*.dts
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> RockPro64 directly connect UART2 pins of RK3399 to external
> >>>>>>> connector.
> >>>>>>> I think maybe other RK3399 boards are facing same problem, but I
> >>>>>>> cannot
> >>>>>>> check it because I have RockPro64 only...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I'm happy if someone tell me other boards situation.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I'm pulling out other rockchip boards momentarily to see what kind of
> >>>>>> population we have.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Note these are not all running 5.x kernels, however none of them have
> >>>>>> the UART2 drive levels modified to my knowledge, and regardless, none
> >>>>>> show over 100 ns.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> board: rise/fall
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> rk3399-roc-pc: 90ns/90ns
> >>>>>> rk3399-rockpro64 V2.0: 90ns/45ns
> >>>>>> rk3399-rockpro64 V2.1: 40ns/41ns
> >>>
> >>> I'm having to eyeball off a 20MHz analog scope (thank goodness for "yes"
> >>> being able to generate a nice periodic signal), but for my NanoPC-T4
> >>> with a cheap eBay FT232R adapter both rise and fall times are certainly
> >>> <100ns. FWIW I've not noticed any issues with letting the Bluetooth
> >>> interface on UART0 run flat-out at 4Mbaud either.
> >>>
> >
> > Robin, Thanks a lot. Your results show that cold solder (or some
> > electric parts on board) of my RockPro64 is broken or something wrong.
> >
> >
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Please make sure there's not a large amount of flux or something
> >>>>>> around the terminals on your board, that seems excessively high.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thank you for valuable information. For more deeply discussion,
> >>>>> I tried other conditions and watch the rise/fall times.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1) Not connect
> >>>>> The rise/fall times are 40ns/5ns when nothing connect (impedance is
> >>>>> very high) to external pin of RockPro64.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What UART device are you using with RockPro64? If you use some device
> >>>>> with RockPro64 and board shows rise/fall times = 90ns/45ns, my device
> >>>>> is not suitable for RockPro64 by some reason. So it's better to drop
> >>>>> my patch.
> >>>>
> >>>> The adapter is an FTDI FT232RL breakout board, attached with some
> >>>> generic Dupont connector jumpers.
> >>>> Interesting your RockPro is showing this symptom, perhaps there is a
> >>>> cold solder joint somewhere introducing resistance?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2) Other SoC
> >>>>> I have other SoC board rk3328-rock64, Rock64 shows rise/fall times =
> >>>>> 90ns/80ns when same UART-USB device is connected to UART pin.
> >>>>
> >>>> I measured similar on my Rock64 as well.
> >>>>
> >
> > Tony, thanks for your info about environment.
> >
> > It seems my RockPro64 problem. I don't have enough electronic knowledge,
> > but try to check my RockPro64 as much as I can.
> >
> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think it shows rk3399's (or RockPro64's?) drive strength is a little
> >>>>> weak. So it's better to increase the drive strength of UART of rk3399.
> >>>>
> >>>> I do not think this is a bad idea generally, it simply allows for more
> >>>> available current from the interface. I'll let others be the judge of
> >>>> that, however.
> >>>
> >>> There may be RK3399 users who would care about the possible EMI impact,
> >>> so it's probably still best to limit such a change to boards which
> >>> definitely need it.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Ah, good point.
> >>
> >> As to speeds achievable, I've only run into drive level issues with
> >> SD/SDIO, but that's all the way up at 25-50 MHz.
> >
> > My patch has bad effects for EMI issues of all RK3399 boards.
> >
> > So conclusion is, my patch should be dropped. Sorry for confusing.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Katsuhiro Suzuki
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Tony
> >>
> >>> Robin.
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>> Katsuhiro Suzuki
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Best Regards,
> >>>>>>> Katsuhiro Suzuki
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks
> >>>>>>>> Heiko
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399.dtsi
> >>>>>>>>> b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399.dtsi
> >>>>>>>>> index beaa92744a64..e3c8f91ead50 100644
> >>>>>>>>> --- a/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399.dtsi
> >>>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/boot/dts/rockchip/rk3399.dtsi
> >>>>>>>>> @@ -2000,6 +2000,11 @@
> >>>>>>>>> drive-strength = <8>;
> >>>>>>>>> };
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> + pcfg_pull_up_12ma: pcfg-pull-up-12ma {
> >>>>>>>>> + bias-pull-up;
> >>>>>>>>> + drive-strength = <12>;
> >>>>>>>>> + };
> >>>>>>>>> +
> >>>>>>>>> pcfg_pull_up_18ma: pcfg-pull-up-18ma {
> >>>>>>>>> bias-pull-up;
> >>>>>>>>> drive-strength = <18>;
> >>>>>>>>> @@ -2521,8 +2526,8 @@
> >>>>>>>>> uart2c {
> >>>>>>>>> uart2c_xfer: uart2c-xfer {
> >>>>>>>>> rockchip,pins =
> >>>>>>>>> - <4 RK_PC3 RK_FUNC_1
> >>>>>>>>> &pcfg_pull_up>,
> >>>>>>>>> - <4 RK_PC4 RK_FUNC_1
> >>>>>>>>> &pcfg_pull_none>;
> >>>>>>>>> + <4 RK_PC3 RK_FUNC_1
> >>>>>>>>> &pcfg_pull_up_12ma>,
> >>>>>>>>> + <4 RK_PC4 RK_FUNC_1
> >>>>>>>>> &pcfg_pull_none_12ma>;
> >>>>>>>>> };
> >>>>>>>>> };
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-03-03 12:27 [PATCH] arm64: dts: rockchip: decrease rising edge time of UART2 Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-03 13:19 ` Heiko Stuebner
2019-03-03 14:03 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-03 15:13 ` Tony McKahan
2019-03-03 17:31 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-03 18:45 ` Tony McKahan
2019-03-03 19:12 ` Tony McKahan
2019-03-04 13:56 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-03 19:50 ` Robin Murphy
2019-03-03 20:41 ` Tony McKahan
2019-03-04 13:59 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-26 13:39 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-26 13:51 ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2019-03-26 13:58 ` Robin Murphy
2019-03-26 14:29 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
2019-03-26 15:43 ` Robin Murphy
2019-03-26 16:26 ` Katsuhiro Suzuki
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