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From: david.goodenough@btconnect.com (David Goodenough)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: dts: mvebu: add ethernet to the cm-a510 board
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 13:32:47 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3064359.D6vvF0Rimq@stargate> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54CB822B.8080809@gmail.com>

On Friday 30 January 2015 14:07:55 Sebastian Hesselbarth wrote:
> [Re-adding the most obvious People to Cc]
> 
> On 30.01.2015 13:44, David Goodenough wrote:
> > On Friday 30 January 2015 13:03:59 Sebastian Hesselbarth wrote:
> >> On 30.01.2015 12:41, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
> >>> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:00:16 +0100
> >> 
> >>> Sebastian Hesselbarth <sebastian.hesselbarth@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> That what dtsi's are made for with one exception: the dtsi cannot "run"
> >> on its own but needs at least one baseboard.dts that includes it. We
> >> could create a "bare"-baseboard that represents what is (easily)
> >> accessible on the SoM itself. Given the fact that even UART0 needs a
> >> baseboard that grabs it from the SoM connector, I see no value in that.
> >> 
> >>> In any case, any real cm-a510 board should work with the
> >>> generic/full .dts even if some hardware modules are lacking. No?
> >> 
> >> Nope. The cm-a510 is just an add-on for a baseboard, it does not make
> >> a working board. Just think of it as a feature-improved SoC.
> > 
> > This sounds like capes on the BeagleBoard.  Are these extension boards
> > self-identifying?  If so then the approach used with the capes might work
> > here too.
> 
> David,
> 
> IMHO capes are a different thing. The BB can run just fine without any
> cape installed, the cm-a510 cannot run without a baseboard. Also, once
> you have your SoM installed it cannot change over runtime, there is no
> need for any dynamic overlays and such.
> 
> You can build some 5 or 10 different configurations given the SoM and
> a specific baseboard but not hundreds of possible combinations.
> Besides, Gabriel is the first in almost 2 years that actually has an
> cm-a510 - so, I doubt we'll have to mainline dozens of baseboards
> using the cm-a510 in the near future.
> 
> Regarding the self-identification, it would be great if the actual SoM
> configuration would be stored in the (always available) SPI flash, but
> from my experience with the boards I have seen so far, I have a bad
> feeling about it ;) A quick look at the sb-a510 (the compulab baseboard
> for cm-a510) suggests that there is more configuration available but
> by jumpers that (hopefully) can be read out by GPIOs at least.
> 
> The best similar board available in mainline I can remember is the
> SolidRun Hummingboard, i.e. one baseboard that can be equipped with
> 3-4 different SoMs.
Ah this sounds like history repeating itself.  I have some old PC-104 
Compulab boards which had pluggable CPUs.  

They were x86 based, so DTS was not a question.  I guess that the
only approach is to start with the plugin, and then add the baseboard
as a standard include.

David
> 
> Sebastian
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-30 13:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <E1YH5bU-0005mG-3L@bombadil.infradead.org>
2015-01-30  9:44 ` [PATCH] ARM: dts: mvebu: add ethernet to the cm-a510 board Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-01-30 10:31   ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-01-30 11:00     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-01-30 11:41       ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-01-30 12:03         ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-01-30 12:39           ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-01-30 12:50             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
     [not found]               ` <54CE354F.5090106@gmail.com>
2015-02-05 22:13                 ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-02-06  7:58                   ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-02-06 10:05                     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-02-06 10:50                       ` Jean-Francois Moine
2015-02-06 10:52                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-02-06 10:48                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]                   ` <54D48711.8060903@gmail.com>
2015-02-06 10:00                     ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-01-30 12:44           ` David Goodenough
2015-01-30 13:07             ` Sebastian Hesselbarth
2015-01-30 13:32               ` David Goodenough [this message]
2015-01-30  6:06 Jean-Francois Moine

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