From: "Heiko Stübner" <heiko@sntech.de>
To: "Ondřej Jirman" <megi@xff.cz>,
"Peter Robinson" <pbrobinson@gmail.com>,
"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
"Tom Fitzhenry" <tom@tom-fitzhenry.me.uk>,
"Martijn Braam" <martijn@brixit.nl>,
"Caleb Connolly" <kc@postmarketos.org>,
"Jarrah Gosbell" <kernel@undef.tools>,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: dts: rk3399-pinephone-pro: Add support for volume keys
Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2023 16:36:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3377280.SvYEEZNnvj@diego> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230417123716.c23izju4ezjrzytn@core>
Am Montag, 17. April 2023, 14:37:16 CEST schrieb Ondřej Jirman:
> Hello Heiko,
>
> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 10:34:20AM +0200, Heiko Stübner wrote:
> > Hi Peter, Ondrej,
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, 5. April 2023, 15:53:39 CEST schrieb Ondřej Jirman:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > > (I have to press quite hard to get bellow 300 and to get reliable detection
> > > of volume down key press)
> > >
> > > On development version of the phone, the value returned by sardac is less
> > > variable. Basically either 298.828125 or 300.5859375 but it's also on
> > > the edge.
> > >
> > > I suggest raising the threshold to something like 600 and to do your own
> > > testing, to get more data points. Unpressed value is ~1791.2109375 on both
> > > phones, so 400 still gets a lot of headroom. And volume up is always < 15
> > > in my tests.
> >
> > did this get more attention meanwhile?
> >
> > I don't have a Pinephone Pro myself, so you'll need to decide between you
> > about the value and the concern Ondrej raised here for the value.
>
> It's safe and needed to use a higher value.
so in a nutshell, if I change "Volume Down" to say 400000 instead of the
current 300000, the patch is good to go?
I.e. that was my main question :-), as you raised the objection to the value
in your initial reply
Thanks
Heiko
> SAR ADC input is pulled high to 1.8V unless some key is pressed, so unpressed
> value will always be around 1800 on all Pinephones, and pressed value will
> depend on contact quality and tolerances. For volume down, SAR ADC input is fed
> from a resistor divider of (10kOhm + 2kOhm) from 1.8V power rail. So that gives
> 2/12*1.8 = 0.3V. We can't have the press detection threshold right at this
> voltage, because:
>
> 1) these resistors have tolerances that will randomly result in measured voltage
> being above or below the 0.3V on real devices (-1% on 10k and +1% on 2k =
> 2*1.01/(10*0.99+2*1.01)*1.8 = 305 mV - already too high even without
> considering switch contact quality), and
>
> 2) those piddly membrane switches apparently have their own random resistance
> that is added to the bottom leg of the resistor divider, and depends on
> strenght of the press on some devices (and switches may develop higher
> resistance with age/use).
>
> Schematic: https://megous.com/dl/tmp/1125d9248a8213b3.png
>
> kind regards,
> o.
>
> > Thanks
> > Heiko
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-04-17 14:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-05 12:38 [PATCH] arm64: dts: rk3399-pinephone-pro: Add support for volume keys Peter Robinson
2023-04-05 13:53 ` Ondřej Jirman
2023-04-17 8:34 ` Heiko Stübner
2023-04-17 12:37 ` Ondřej Jirman
2023-04-17 14:36 ` Heiko Stübner [this message]
2023-04-17 14:48 ` Ondřej Jirman
2023-04-17 22:43 ` Heiko Stuebner
2023-04-18 7:42 ` Peter Robinson
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