From: arnd@arndb.de (Arnd Bergmann)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [Linaro-acpi] [PATCH v5 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 17:35:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <3666560.Yq8BxWCZ3E@wuerfel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54B7F767.6060808@linaro.org>
On Thursday 15 January 2015 10:22:47 Al Stone wrote:
>
> Can I restate the position as I hear it, then? I want to make sure
> I'm understanding what's being said.
>
> What I'm reading seems to say: if an ARMv8 vendor wants Linux support
> in the upstream kernel, regardless of whether or not it is a mobile or
> server product, they must submit DT-based patches until such time as
> ACPI on arm64 is deemed "mature." Do I have that correct?
I was specifically referring to SoC specific device drivers here.
It's a bit unclear what a 'vendor' is in this context, but I'd hope
that as long as we have basic support for a SoC, other people can
build DT blobs for these machines and have them run Linux out of
the box.
> That implies to me that if I want to build an ACPI-only product, there
> is no way to predict when or if I can get Linux support. And, that if
> I do want Linux support, and need ACPI for my end-users, I have to
> maintain both sets of firmware for some unknown time into the future.
> Is that what was meant?
The firmware is normally not written by the people that do the SoC,
and we have very little control over what someone puts in their
firmware. Shipping an ACPI-only firmware would still work, but has
the danger of breaking if we ever have to make incompatible changes
to the way we interpret the ACPI tables and we have to support users
that can't upgrade their firmware.
Hopefully we can quickly get to the point where we don't have to
make incompatible changes, but I don't think that is realistic
from the day we first merge ACPI support.
Arnd
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Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-10-17 13:36 [PATCH v5 00/18] Introduce ACPI for ARM64 based on ACPI 5.1 Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:36 ` [PATCH v5 01/18] ARM64: Move the init of cpu_logical_map(0) before unflatten_device_tree() Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 13:45 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 16:43 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-11-18 16:57 ` Will Deacon
2014-11-18 17:02 ` Sudeep Holla
2014-11-18 17:03 ` Will Deacon
2014-11-19 0:29 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:36 ` [PATCH v5 02/18] ACPI / table: Add new function to get table entries Hanjun Guo
2014-11-24 1:27 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 11:03 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-24 14:51 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-25 3:38 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-25 21:20 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-26 1:42 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:36 ` [PATCH v5 03/18] ACPI / table: Count matched and successfully parsed entries without specifying max entries Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 13:51 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-18 20:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-19 0:34 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-11-24 1:45 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 8:34 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-11-24 15:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 15:01 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-11-24 15:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-11-24 15:18 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 04/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Get RSDP and ACPI boot-time tables Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 05/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce sleep-arm.c Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 06/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce early_param for "acpi" and pass acpi=force to enable ACPI Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 07/18] ARM64 / ACPI: If we chose to boot from acpi then disable FDT Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 08/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Make PCI optional for ACPI on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 09/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse FADT table to get PSCI flags for PSCI init Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 10/18] ACPI / table: Print GIC information when MADT is parsed Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 11/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse MADT for SMP initialization Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 12/18] ACPI / processor: Make it possible to get CPU hardware ID via GICC Hanjun Guo
2014-10-24 17:39 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-10-27 9:58 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-29 10:43 ` Lorenzo Pieralisi
2014-10-30 8:27 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-29 21:33 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2014-10-30 8:30 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 13/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Introduce ACPI_IRQ_MODEL_GIC and register device's gsi Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 14/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Add GICv2 specific ACPI boot support Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 15/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Parse GTDT to initialize arch timer Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 16/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Select ACPI_REDUCED_HARDWARE_ONLY if ACPI is enabled on ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 17/18] ARM64 / ACPI: Enable ARM64 in Kconfig Hanjun Guo
2014-10-17 13:37 ` [PATCH v5 18/18] Documentation: ACPI for ARM64 Hanjun Guo
2014-12-18 20:01 ` Suravee Suthikulanit
2014-12-19 13:04 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-12-18 20:04 ` Timur Tabi
2014-12-19 13:53 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-12-24 17:18 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-12-24 19:33 ` Jon Masters
2014-12-26 13:23 ` Mark Brown
2014-12-30 11:23 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-05 13:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-05 20:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 11:20 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 13:51 ` G Gregory
2015-01-06 14:03 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 13:59 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 14:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 19:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 14:10 ` Grant Likely
2015-01-15 15:51 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-15 16:52 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-15 17:22 ` Al Stone
2015-01-16 16:35 ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2015-01-15 18:00 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-06 16:24 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-06 19:21 ` [Linaro-acpi] " Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 22:06 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 4:55 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 10:36 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 11:50 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 13:06 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 17:27 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-07 17:44 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 19:48 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-07 20:05 ` Mark Brown
2015-01-07 20:14 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-09 10:33 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-09 10:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-09 15:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-07 18:41 ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-07 19:58 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 20:05 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-07 22:59 ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-08 11:26 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-08 19:59 ` Kangkang Shen
2015-01-07 21:40 ` Jason Cooper
2015-01-07 22:10 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-04 9:39 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-05 11:05 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 11:11 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-06 11:29 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 13:50 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-06 13:54 ` G Gregory
2015-01-06 13:59 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-06 14:05 ` Arnd Bergmann
2015-01-06 14:16 ` Catalin Marinas
2015-01-06 14:37 ` Charles Garcia-Tobin
2015-01-06 16:37 ` Jon Masters
2015-01-09 23:12 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` <CAJ5Y-eZ5cu9_OhG24yAv+CZq7zKg0vU+eVGekyN+9dDzaz1OhQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-12-30 20:13 ` ashwinc at codeaurora.org
2014-12-31 8:34 ` Hanjun Guo
2014-12-31 15:08 ` ashwinc at codeaurora.org
2015-01-01 20:04 ` Graeme Gregory
2015-01-02 9:28 ` Hanjun Guo
2015-01-02 16:47 ` Catalin Marinas
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