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From: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
To: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javierm@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Ilias Apalodimas <ilias.apalodimas@linaro.org>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	WANG Xuerui <kernel@xen0n.name>,
	Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>, Simona Vetter <simona@ffwll.ch>,
	"K. Y. Srinivasan" <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>, Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	longli@microsoft.com, Helge Deller <deller@gmx.de>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, loongarch@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fbdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/8] firmware: sysfb: Make CONFIG_SYSFB a user-selectable option
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2026 16:10:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3e466158-c2e5-4e23-934f-dcdbb71ad41f@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78f76717-8f1e-41d6-92f7-261df96b84b6@app.fastmail.com>

Hi

Am 02.04.26 um 15:08 schrieb Arnd Bergmann:
> On Thu, Apr 2, 2026, at 11:09, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>> Add a descriptive string and help text to CONFIG_SYSFB, so that users
>> can modify it. Flip all implicit selects in the Kconfig options into
>> dependencies. This avoids cyclic dependencies in the config.
>>
>> Enabling CONFIG_SYSFB makes the kernel provide a device for the firmware
>> framebuffer. As this can (slightly) affect system behavior, having a
>> user-facing option seems preferable. Some users might also want to set
>> every detail of their kernel config.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
> I don't really like this part of the series and would prefer
> to keep CONFIG_SYSFB hidden as much as possible as an x86
> (and EFI) specific implementation detail, with the hope
> of eventually seperating out the x86 bits from the EFI ones.

You mean, you want to use the EFI-provided framebuffers without the 
intermediate step of going through sysfb_primary_display?

In that case, CONFIG_SYSFB would become an x86-internal thing, right?

>
> In general, I am always in favor of properly using Kconfig
> dependencies over 'select' statements, for the same reasons
> you describe, but I don't want the the x86 logic for
> the legacy VESA and VGA console handling to leak into more
> architectures than necessary.
>
> Do you think we could instead move the sysfb_init()
> function into the same two places that contain the
> sysfb_primary_display definition (arch/x86/kernel/setup.c,
> drivers/firmware/efi/efi-init.c) and simplify the efi version
> to take out the x86 bits? That would reduce the rest
> of sysfb-primary.c to the logic to unregister the device,
> and that could then be selected by both x86 and EFI.

No, I'm more than happy that sysfb finally consolidates all the 
init-framebuffer setup and detection that floated around in the kernel. 
I would not want it to be duplicated again.

For now, we could certainly keep CONFIG_SYSFB hidden and autoselected. 
Although I think this will require soem sort of solution at a later point.

Best regards
Thomas

>
>        Arnd

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  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-02 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-02  9:09 [PATCH 0/8] firmware: sysfb: Consolidate config/code wrt. sysfb_primary_screen Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 1/8] hv: Select CONFIG_SYSFB only for CONFIG_HYPERV_VMBUS Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02 10:50   ` Saurabh Singh Sengar
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 2/8] firmware: efi: Never declare sysfb_primary_display on x86 Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 3/8] firmware: sysfb: Make CONFIG_SYSFB a user-selectable option Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02 13:08   ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-02 14:10     ` Thomas Zimmermann [this message]
2026-04-02 14:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-02 15:27         ` Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02 16:47           ` Arnd Bergmann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 4/8] firmware: sysfb: Split sysfb.c into sysfb_primary.c and sysfb_pci.c Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 5/8] firmware: sysfb: Implement screen_info relocation for primary display Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 6/8] firmware: sysfb: Avoid forward-declaring sysfb_parent_dev() Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 7/8] firmware: efi: Make CONFIG_EFI_EARLYCON depend on CONFIG_SYSFB; clean up Thomas Zimmermann
2026-04-02  9:09 ` [PATCH 8/8] firmware: sysfb: Move CONFIG_FIRMWARE_EDID to firmware options Thomas Zimmermann

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