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From: f.fainelli@gmail.com (Florian Fainelli)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v6 05/21] net-next: stmmac: Add dwmac-sun8i
Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2017 10:37:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <42c51c03-2247-2d75-8534-51a96a92875c@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170627172937.qrbcie347wlbo3z3@flea>

On 06/27/2017 10:29 AM, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 02:37:48PM +0200, Corentin Labbe wrote:
>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 11:33:56AM +0100, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 27/06/17 11:23, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ? 2017?6?27? GMT+08:00 ??6:15:58, Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com> ??:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> On 27/06/17 10:41, Maxime Ripard wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 10:02:45AM +0100, Andre Przywara wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (CC:ing some people from that Rockchip dmwac series)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 27/06/17 09:21, Corentin Labbe wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 04:11:21PM +0800, Chen-Yu Tsai wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Corentin Labbe
>>>>>>>>> <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 01:18:23AM +0100, Andr? Przywara wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31/05/17 08:18, Corentin Labbe wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The dwmac-sun8i is a heavy hacked version of stmmac hardware by
>>>>>>>>>>>> allwinner.
>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact the only common part is the descriptor management and
>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>>>>>> register function.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I know I am a bit late with this, but while adapting the U-Boot
>>>>> driver
>>>>>>>>>>> to the new binding I was wondering about the internal PHY
>>>>> detection:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So here you seem to deduce the usage of the internal PHY by the
>>>>> PHY
>>>>>>>>>>> interface specified in the DT (MII = internal, RGMII =
>>>>> external).
>>>>>>>>>>> I think I raised this question before, but isn't it perfectly
>>>>> legal for
>>>>>>>>>>> a board to use MII with an external PHY even on those SoCs that
>>>>> feature
>>>>>>>>>>> an internal PHY?
>>>>>>>>>>> On the first glance that does not make too much sense, but apart
>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>> not being the correct binding to describe all of the SoCs
>>>>> features I see
>>>>>>>>>>> two scenarios:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1) A board vendor might choose to not use the internal PHY
>>>>> because it
>>>>>>>>>>> has bugs, lacks features (configurability) or has other issues.
>>>>> For
>>>>>>>>>>> instance I have heard reports that the internal PHY makes the
>>>>> SoC go
>>>>>>>>>>> rather hot, possibly limiting the CPU frequency. By using an
>>>>> external
>>>>>>>>>>> MII PHY (which are still cheaper than RGMII PHYs) this can be
>>>>> avoided.
>>>>>>>>>>> 2) A PHY does not necessarily need to be directly connected to
>>>>>>>>>>> magnetics. Indeed quite some boards use (RG)MII to connect to a
>>>>> switch
>>>>>>>>>>> IC or some other network circuitry, for instance fibre
>>>>> connectors.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I was wondering if we would need an explicit:
>>>>>>>>>>>       allwinner,use-internal-phy;
>>>>>>>>>>> boolean DT property to signal the usage of the internal PHY?
>>>>>>>>>>> Alternatively we could go with the negative version:
>>>>>>>>>>>       allwinner,disable-internal-phy;
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or what about introducing a new "allwinner,internal-mii-phy"
>>>>> compatible
>>>>>>>>>>> string for the *PHY* node and use that?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I just want to avoid that we introduce a binding that causes us
>>>>>>>>>>> headaches later. I think we can still fix this with a followup
>>>>> patch
>>>>>>>>>>> before the driver and its binding hit a release kernel.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Andre.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I just see some patch, where "phy-mode = internal" is valid.
>>>>>>>>>> I will try to find a way to use it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can you provide a link?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/6/23/479
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm not a fan of using phy-mode for this. There's no guarantee
>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>> mode the internal PHY uses. That's what phy-mode is for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can understand Chen-Yu's concerns, but ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For each soc the internal PHY mode is know and setted in
>>>>> emac_variant/internal_phy
>>>>>>>> So its not a problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> that is true as well, at least for now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So while I agree that having a separate property to indicate
>>>>>>> the usage of the internal PHY would be nice, I am bit tempted
>>>>>>> to use this easier approach and piggy back on the existing
>>>>>>> phy-mode property.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're trying to fix an issue that works for now too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we want to consider future weird cases, then we must
>>>>>> consider all of them. And the phy mode changing is definitely
>>>>>> not really far fetched.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree with Chen-Yu, and I really feel like the compatible
>>>>>> solution you suggested would cover both your concerns, and
>>>>>> ours.
>>>>>
>>>>> So something like this?
>>>>> 	emac: emac at 1c30000 {
>>>>> 	    compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-h3-emac";
>>>>> 	    ...
>>>>> 	    phy-mode = "mii";
>>>>> 	    phy-handle = <&int_mii_phy>;
>>>>> 	    ...
>>>>>
>>>>> 	    mdio: mdio {
>>>>>                #address-cells = <1>;
>>>>>                #size-cells = <0>;
>>>>>                int_mii_phy: ethernet-phy at 1 {
>>>>>                    compatible = "allwinner,sun8i-h3-ephy";
>>>>>                    syscon = <&syscon>;
>>>>
>>>> The MAC still needs to set some bits of syscon register.
>>>
>>> Yes, the syscon property needs also to be in the MAC node, that
>>> was meant to be somewhere in the second "..." ;-)
>>>
>>> But now since Chen-Yu mentioned that we need to set up the PHY *first*
>>> to make it actually discoverable via MDIO, I wonder if we could change
>>> this to:
>>> 1) have the DT as described here
>>> 2) Let the dwmac-sun8i driver peek into the node referenced by
>>> phy-handle and check the compatible string there.
>>> 3) If that matches some allwinner internal PHY name, it sets up the PHY
>>> to make it respond when the MDIO driver queries its bus.
>>>
>>> Or can a PHY driver set itself up (since we have clocks and resets
>>> properties in there) *before* the MDIO bus gets scanned?
>>> Chen-Yu's comment in the other mail hints at that this is not easily
>>> possible.
>>
>> I think adding phy compatible just make things more complex.
>>
>> I think the patch series I sent early fix all problems without more
>> complexity since:
>>
>> - it does not add more DT stuff
>> - it use an already used in tree DT phy-mode "internal" (and so phy
>>   mode PHY_INTERFACE_MODE_INTERNAL)
> 
>   - it doesn't cover all the concerns we ha>   - it uses an undocumented value, with an unclear implication

No it's no longer undocumented since [1]

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/davem/net-next.git/commit/?id=29b65f5f97632722bb80969377e5b0e2401fb392

Due to the timezone difference, you guys have already managed to have
several exchanges, hopefully I will have a chance to review your
discussions a little later today.
-- 
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-06-27 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-31  7:18 [PATCH v6 00/21] net-next: stmmac: add dwmac-sun8i ethernet driver Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 01/21] net-next: stmmac: export stmmac_set_mac_addr/stmmac_get_mac_addr Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 02/21] net-next: stmmac: add optional setup function Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 03/21] dt-bindings: net-next: Add DT bindings documentation for Allwinner dwmac-sun8i Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 04/21] dt-bindings: syscon: Add DT bindings documentation for Allwinner syscon Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 05/21] net-next: stmmac: Add dwmac-sun8i Corentin Labbe
2017-06-26  0:18   ` André Przywara
2017-06-27  8:05     ` Corentin Labbe
2017-06-27  8:11       ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-06-27  8:21         ` Corentin Labbe
2017-06-27  9:02           ` Andre Przywara
2017-06-27  9:41             ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-27 10:11               ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-06-27 10:17                 ` [linux-sunxi] " Icenowy Zheng
2017-06-27 10:20                   ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-06-27 10:15               ` Andre Przywara
2017-06-27 10:22                 ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-06-27 10:23                 ` Icenowy Zheng
2017-06-27 10:33                   ` Andre Przywara
2017-06-27 12:37                     ` Corentin Labbe
2017-06-27 17:29                       ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-27 17:37                         ` Corentin Labbe
2017-06-27 17:37                         ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-07-01  6:53                           ` Corentin Labbe
2017-07-01 21:42                             ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-02  8:36                               ` Corentin Labbe
2017-06-27 16:00                     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 06/21] arm: sun8i: sunxi-h3-h5: Add dt node for the syscon control module Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 07/21] arm: sun8i: sunxi-h3-h5: add dwmac-sun8i ethernet driver Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 08/21] arm: sun8i: orangepi-pc: Enable dwmac-sun8i Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 09/21] arm: sun8i: orangepi-zero: " Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 10/21] arm: sun8i: orangepi-one: " Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 11/21] arm: sun8i: orangepi-2: " Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 12/21] arm: sun8i: orangepi-pc-plus: Set EMAC activity LEDs to active high Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 13/21] arm: sun8i: nanopi-neo: Enable dwmac-sun8i Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 14/21] arm64: allwinner: sun50i-a64: Add dt node for the syscon control module Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 15/21] arm64: allwinner: sun50i-a64: add dwmac-sun8i Ethernet driver Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 16/21] arm64: allwinner: pine64: Enable dwmac-sun8i Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 17/21] arm64: allwinner: pine64-plus: " Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 18/21] arm64: allwinner: bananapi-m64: " Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 19/21] arm: sunxi: Enable dwmac-sun8i driver on sunxi_defconfig Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 20/21] arm: multi_v7: Enable dwmac-sun8i driver on multi_v7_defconfig Corentin Labbe
2017-05-31  7:18 ` [PATCH v6 21/21] arm64: defconfig: Enable dwmac-sun8i driver on defconfig Corentin Labbe
2017-06-01 18:58 ` [PATCH v6 00/21] net-next: stmmac: add dwmac-sun8i ethernet driver David Miller
2017-06-02  6:37   ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-02  9:13     ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-02 14:22       ` David Miller
2017-06-02 22:24         ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-09 12:50           ` Maxime Ripard
2017-06-02 14:08     ` David Miller

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