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From: catalin.marinas@arm.com (Catalin Marinas)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:28:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AB7FE15.4060804@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090921213802.GH30821@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:07:51AM +0100, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:44:23AM +0100, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> I would still call this I-D cache coherency issue since the two caches
>>> have a different view of the RAM but I agree that the D-cache is the one
>>> holding the data (with a slight chance for the I-cache not to be in sync
>>> with main RAM, though we could treat it separately).
>>>
>>> We can sort out the D-cache issue with your approach for cleaning it in
>>> the copy_user_highpage() function, but, as I said, we affect the
>>> standard CoW mechanism for data pages quite a lot.
>> Let me restate my approach more clearly:
>>
>> 1. Remember that a VMA has been executable.
>> 2. Only do the additional handing if the VMA has been executable.
> 
> Well, there's a problem with this approach.  Any binary which executes
> with read-implies-exec (in other words, the majority of those around)
> results in any region with read permission also getting exec permission.
> 
> So, mprotect(rw) actually ends up as mprotect(rwx), which means that
> effectively _all_ VMAs have been executable.
> 
> This approach won't work as well as I'd hope, since this means every
> COW fault ends up triggering the cache flush.
> 
> However, the same problem affects Catalin's approach too - with these
> binaries, every VMA has VM_EXEC set, which means every VMA gets the
> cache flushing treatment whenever flush_cache_range() is called.

In this case, I don't have a better solution, other than optimising the 
coherent_user_range function in my patch to avoid generating page faults 
(and run some benchmarks).

Of course, we could improve the generic mm/ code but that's not easy to 
merge as it affects other architectures.

> This is a nasty problem to solve...

I agree.

-- 
Catalin

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-21 22:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4A7AEEB6.5060903@googlemail.com>
     [not found] ` <1250184014.14019.40.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]   ` <1250501311.9858.24.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]     ` <20090817140422.GA10764@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2009-08-29 12:27       ` Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore Catalin Marinas
2009-08-31  8:30         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:29           ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 15:56             ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-07 16:43               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-07 17:31             ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-07 21:40               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-03 11:58         ` Dirk Behme
     [not found]       ` <1250529916.11185.80.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]         ` <20090919224022.GA738@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
     [not found]           ` <1253435940.498.15.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
2009-09-20  9:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 19:02               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-20 22:46                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21  8:31                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21  8:41                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21  9:41                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 10:08                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21  8:49                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21  8:54                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21  9:44                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 10:07                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 10:42                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 20:10                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 21:26                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:14                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:25                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22  8:43                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:58                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 22:12                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:31                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:34                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-21 21:38                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-21 22:28                               ` Catalin Marinas [this message]
2009-09-21 22:37                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-21 22:33                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-09-22  9:21                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 10:19                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22 17:17                                 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23  6:03                                   ` Dirk Behme
2009-09-23  9:13                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 10:38                                       ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:12                                         ` Mikael Pettersson
2009-09-23 12:42                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-09-23 12:51                                             ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-23 12:55                                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 14:57                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:20                               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-15 15:28                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:56                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-20 11:39                                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:39                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:40                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 14:48                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:45                                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-26 19:17                                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-15 15:48                                 ` Dirk Behme
2009-10-15 15:53                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-25 13:04                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-10-26 18:18                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-20 22:02               ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22  5:44                 ` Shilimkar, Santosh
2009-09-22  9:01                   ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-22  9:34                     ` Shilimkar, Santosh
     [not found] ` <1249981883.27150.14.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]   ` <4A818CBC.8040000@googlemail.com>
     [not found]     ` <1250006770.30628.1.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]       ` <4A819C54.3080606@googlemail.com>
     [not found]         ` <1250009043.30628.9.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]           ` <87ab25vazg.fsf@brigitte.kvy.fi>
     [not found]             ` <1250080338.20332.32.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
     [not found]               ` <87k518yc8a.fsf@brigitte.kvy.fi>
2009-09-11  9:21                 ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP (was Re: Kernel related (?) user space crash at ARM11 MPCore) Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 12:55                   ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 13:00                     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-09-11 15:20                       ` Bill Gatliff
2009-09-11 16:06                         ` Catalin Marinas
2009-10-06  6:12                           ` smsc911x.c driver and SMP Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31  0:07                             ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31  6:22                               ` Antti P Miettinen
2010-08-31  9:10                                 ` Shinya Kuribayashi
2010-08-31  8:33                               ` Catalin Marinas
2010-08-31  8:42                                 ` Shinya Kuribayashi

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