From: trd@45mercystreet.com (Toby Douglass)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: CAS implementation may be broken
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:34:56 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0C5F90.7050503@45mercystreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1259061596.13956.15.camel@pc1117.cambridge.arm.com>
I wrote:
> I thought about this a little. If the memory barrier is immediately
> before and given the next instruction is the LDREX, *all* threads coming
> to the LDREX *must* have preceeding them a DMB and so be up to date on
> memory, regardless of pauses in thread execution.
Additionally; the DMB afterwards seemed to have no value. You could
perform the STREX and then your thread could pause indefinitely and were
you in a situation where you store was not immediately visible or
correctly ordered to another thread, that thread would then read the old
value.
A more common example would be that another thread is reading the
destination value for some reason, and reads after the STREX and before
the trailing DMB.
This implies you need a DMB as the instruction immediately preceding
every read and every write of destination. On x86/x64, all the atomic
ops (e.g. the LOCK prefix) act as full memory barriers.
Note that I'm not yet fully conversant with the issues in multi-core
threading, so I may be writing rubbish :-)
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-24 22:34 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-04 18:09 GCC built-in atomic operations and memory barriers Toby Douglass
2009-11-04 19:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-04 20:12 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-04 21:03 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-06 19:10 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-04 22:09 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-11-06 19:17 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-21 15:21 ` CAS implementation may be broken Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 15:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-23 19:10 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 20:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-23 20:34 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 15:13 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 15:15 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 15:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-24 16:20 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 16:27 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 17:14 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-25 1:24 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-26 16:14 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-27 1:37 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-24 15:33 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 15:34 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-23 16:40 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-23 22:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-23 23:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-24 1:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-11-24 11:19 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 22:24 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-25 11:11 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-25 18:57 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 22:34 ` Toby Douglass [this message]
2009-11-24 22:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2009-11-25 0:34 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 9:38 ` Toby Douglass
2009-11-24 15:59 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-11-24 16:34 ` Toby Douglass
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