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From: skannan@codeaurora.org (Saravana Kannan)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Locking in the clk API
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 23:16:04 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D3932B4.8010904@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110120190822.GK6335@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 01/20/2011 11:08 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 05:02:55PM +0000, Ben Dooks wrote:
>> If you want to make it so that each low-power mode has to work
>> out what PLLs need to be disabled and then re-enabled makes me
>> want to be sick. Hiding this stuff behind specific implementations
>> is a recipe for disaster.
>
> Why should systems which don't suffer from such problems be prevented
> from gaining power saving from turning off their clocks when devices
> are not being used (eg, the console serial port.)
>
> One solution to your root PLL issue would be to have a separate set of
> enable/disable API calls which get called at setup/release time (or
> whatever you'd like to call it) which can only be called from non-atomic
> context.  Maybe clk_prepare() and clk_unprepare().  These functions
> should perform whatever is necessary to ensure that the clock source
> is available for use atomically when clk_enable() is called.
>
> So, in your case, clk_prepare() ensures that the root PLL is enabled,
> clk_unprepare() allows it to be turned off.
>
> In the case of a console driver, clk_prepare() can be called when we
> know the port will be used as a console.  clk_enable() is then called
> before writing out the string, and clk_disable() after we've completely
> sent the last character.
>
> This allows the best of both worlds.  We now have a clk_enable() which
> can be used to turn the clocks off through the clock tree up to the first
> non-atomic clock, and we also have a way to deal with those which need
> to sleep.  So not only do "sleeping clock" implementations become possible
> but these "sleeping clock" implementations also get the opportunity to
> shutdown some of their clock tree with minimal latency for doing so.

This suggestion looked promising till I realized that clk_set_rate() 
will still be atomic. clk_set_rate() will need to enable/disable the 
PLLs depending on which PLLs the rates are derived from. So, the locking 
in clk_prepare/unprepare() still has to be atomic since the "slow stuff" 
is shared with clk_set_rate().

IMO, the most workable/flexible suggestion I have seen so far is:
- Having a way to explicitly ask for an atomic clock from clk_get(). 
That way the driver can decide to fail early during probe or decide to 
enable/disable in open/close or if it gets atomic clocks to 
enable/disable in atomic context.
- Atomic and sleep-able variants of clk_enable/disable/set_rate. I 
personally prefer the existing APIs to be sleep-able and introduce new 
atomic variants, but it's not worth the time arguing over that.

Taking one step at a time, do we all at least agree having two variants 
of enable/disable/set_rate?

Thanks,
Saravana

-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-01-21  7:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-11  2:16 Locking in the clk API Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  3:15 ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11  4:11   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11  4:54     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:32       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:57         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  3:43           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:31             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:03     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-01-11  9:28       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 14:34         ` Pavel Machek
2011-01-20 16:29   ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 18:56     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-20 21:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21  2:06         ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21  4:12           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21  9:32             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-22  1:53               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:24                 ` Colin Cross
2011-01-22  2:56                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  9:15                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-24 19:31                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-21 21:03             ` Dima Zavin
2011-01-21 21:53               ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 22:02                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 22:28                   ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 23:21                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-01-21 23:50                     ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-22  1:35                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-22  2:22                       ` Colin Cross
2011-01-21 22:29                   ` Nicolas Pitre
2011-01-21 23:28                 ` Bryan Huntsman
2011-01-11  9:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11  9:44   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 10:13     ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 10:30       ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-11 12:18         ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-11 13:52           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 14:35           ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-01-12  3:25             ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  7:40               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-12  1:54           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  2:25             ` Paul Mundt
2011-01-20 16:57               ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:53           ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 16:40       ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-11 10:39     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 10:47       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-11 10:56         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-11 11:15       ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-20 17:02         ` Ben Dooks
2011-01-20 19:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21  0:09             ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  4:47               ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  9:39                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-21 10:11                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-22  4:08                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-01-22  5:30                   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-21  7:16             ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2011-01-21  9:40               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-22  1:47                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  4:34                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27  8:54                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 20:30                     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-27 20:43                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:07                         ` Alan Cox
2011-01-27 21:11                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-27 21:15                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-28  3:29                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-28  3:27                         ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-11 12:11   ` Jassi Brar
2011-01-12  2:56   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-01-12  9:03     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 14:02       ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 14:53         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 15:03           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 15:15             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:03               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-15 16:21                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 16:31                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-01-16  6:59               ` Grant Likely
2011-01-15 17:07           ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 17:20             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-15 17:44               ` Christer Weinigel
2011-01-15 20:30                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-01-17  1:19 ` Jeremy Kerr

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