linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: skannan@codeaurora.org (Saravana Kannan)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE and readl/writel weirdness
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 17:23:15 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D6D9C03.2080906@codeaurora.org> (raw)

Russell, Catalin,

In arch/arm/include/asm/io.h, we have the following piece of code:

#ifdef CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE
#define __iormb()               rmb()
#define __iowmb()               wmb()
#else
#define __iormb()               do { } while (0)
#define __iowmb()               do { } while (0)
#endif

#define readb(c)                ({ u8  __v = readb_relaxed(c); 
__iormb(); __v; })
#define readw(c)                ({ u16 __v = readw_relaxed(c); 
__iormb(); __v; })
#define readl(c)                ({ u32 __v = readl_relaxed(c); 
__iormb(); __v; })

#define writeb(v,c)             ({ __iowmb(); writeb_relaxed(v,c); })
#define writew(v,c)             ({ __iowmb(); writew_relaxed(v,c); })
#define writel(v,c)             ({ __iowmb(); writel_relaxed(v,c); })

If I'm not missing some magic, this would mean that 
"CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE" determines if readl(s)/writel(s) get to 
have a built in mb() or not.

The rest of the emails is under the assumption that my statement above 
is true.

This seems like a real bad thing to do.

There are so many other drivers that don't use or care about DMA and 
might still want to ensure some ordering constraints between their 
readl(s)/writel(s). They can't depend on readl/writel taking care of it 
for them since their code could be used in a kernel configuration that 
doesn't enable this config.

Firstly, I don't know how many people noticed this and realize they 
can't depend on readl/writel to take care of the mb()s for them. Seems 
like an unnecessary encouragement to make mistakes when it didn't need 
to be so.

Secondly, even if they realize they have to take care of it, they will 
have to continue using mb()s in to force ordering between their 
reads/writes. So, are we depending on the compiler to optimize these 
extra mb() out in the case where the config is enabled? I'm not sure it 
will be able to optimize out the extra mb()s in all cases.

Please let me know if I'm missing something and there is a good reason 
for writing the code as it is today. If there is not much of a reason 
for this, do you have any objections if I send a patch to split out the 
"readl/writel with built in mb()" as a separate config and 'select'ing 
it in ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE?

Thanks,
Saravana
-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

             reply	other threads:[~2011-03-02  1:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-02  1:23 Saravana Kannan [this message]
2011-03-02  8:23 ` CONFIG_ARM_DMA_MEM_BUFFERABLE and readl/writel weirdness Arnd Bergmann
2011-03-03  7:57   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-03-02  8:39 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-03  7:49   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-03-03 10:11     ` Catalin Marinas
2011-03-09  4:37       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-03-03 10:24     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-09  4:58       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-03-09  8:05         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-03-09  9:32           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-03-09  9:38             ` Russell King - ARM Linux

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4D6D9C03.2080906@codeaurora.org \
    --to=skannan@codeaurora.org \
    --cc=linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).