From: ryan@bluewatersys.com (Ryan Mallon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 05/14] at91: use structure to store the current soc
Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:32:26 +1200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DBF30FA.5000708@bluewatersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110502220643.GF13724@game.jcrosoft.org>
On 05/03/2011 10:06 AM, Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD wrote:
>> The boards are different. They have a common base pinout, but their
>> peripheral pinouts are different. Multiple mach-types cost nothing and
>> are a well understood part of ARM Linux. Your proposed cpu detection
>> code adds complexity and code, and has zero benefit for any of the
>> boards currently in mainline.
> So we will do an other re-architecture in the few months
> Linus is going to said no
> We do need to stop to do changset again and again just because we don't solve
> the issue at the beginning
Agreed. That is why I am saying that we should focusing on reducing the
size and complexity of AT91 and getting a single kernel working for all
of the at91 boards which are currently in mainline.
>> Carrier boards are a separate issue, and there has not really been a
>> consensus on what the best way to solve the issue of combining system on
>> modules (SoMs) with carrier boards. Should the mach-type belong to the
>> SoM or to the system as a whole (SoM + carrier board)? There is
>> currently a push to get ARM to consolidate on things rather than each
>> sub-architecture doing things its own way.
> Sorry but cpu detection is soc specific
The method for specifying the setup of a system including SoM and
carrier board(s) is not cpu/soc specific and does not necessarily need
to be done via cpu detection. In fact, I think cpu detection is a bad
way to do it.
> hardcode it via machine ID is not good
>> So if you want a way to
>> differentiate carrier boards, then I think that needs to be discussed
>> with other sub-architecture maintainers so that a common approach can be
>> devised. I don't think that cpu detection is a robust solution. Device
>> tree is probably the long-term solution to this.
>>
>> In short, your soc detection patches add additional complexity, but have
>> zero effect on the possibility of supporting all of the current mainline
>> at91 platforms in a single kernel. We need to fix the other barriers to
>> this support first (such as the work Andrew Victor is doing).
> Which can be also simply be knowning the CPU you are on
>
> If you take a look on other arch they do cpu detection and there is nothing
> wrong about it.
There is nothing wrong with the current solution for at91, yet you are
trying to add code which is confusing (two sets of cpu_is macros) and
adds more lines for something which _already works_.
This argument is getting frustrating. My current objections to this
patch are:
- The current solution (explicitly specifying the soc type) works for
all of the at91 boards currently in mainline.
- It adds two sets of cpu_is macros (second set with __ prefix), which
is confusing and pointless.
- You have implied that the __cpu_is macros will be removed at a later
date. Since they are basically useless now, this is just more code churn
when we are trying to reduce it on ARM.
- The patch as it stands won't work in a unified at91 kernel because the
address of the DBGU registers is different on some at91 platforms.
- By itself this patch adds complexity without fixing anything and
without introducing any functional change.
- There are other barriers to having a unified at91 kernel which need to
be solved first. This patch is trying to jump ahead and solve problems
that don't exist yet.
~Ryan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-02 22:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-25 18:08 [PATCH 0/14] at91: factorize soc init and switch to early platform Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 01/14] at91rm9200: introduce at91rm9200_set_type to specficy cpu package Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 02/14] at91: introduce commom AT91_BASE_SYS Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 21:48 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 4:27 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 03/14] at91: factorize at91 interrupts init to soc Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 21:52 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-25 22:11 ` H Hartley Sweeten
2011-04-26 17:29 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 22:04 ` Andrew Victor
2011-04-26 23:39 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 11:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 04/14 v2] at91: merge board usb-a9260 and usb-a9263 together Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 05/14] at91: use structure to store the current soc Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 22:08 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 4:21 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 4:44 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 6:42 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 20:22 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 23:45 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-27 0:13 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-27 1:27 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-27 1:47 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-27 3:18 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-27 3:41 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-28 14:04 ` Andrew Victor
2011-04-28 14:10 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 20:20 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-28 23:06 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 23:24 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-29 2:10 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-29 8:32 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-29 8:35 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-29 8:50 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-05-02 15:38 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-02 20:25 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-05-02 20:24 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-02 20:38 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-05-02 20:51 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-02 21:27 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-05-02 21:29 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-02 22:05 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-05-02 22:06 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-02 22:32 ` Ryan Mallon [this message]
2011-05-02 22:41 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-02 23:16 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02 23:16 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 06/14 v3] at91: switch to CLKDEV_LOOKUP Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 07/14] at91: switch gpio to early platfrom device Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 22:51 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 4:11 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 08/14] at91: move gpio to drivers/gpio Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 09/14] at91: switch pit timer to early platform devices Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 5:07 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-28 11:23 ` Andrew Victor
2011-04-28 11:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 13:15 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 16:56 ` Andrew Victor
2011-04-28 17:33 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 18:15 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 20:47 ` Andrew Victor
2011-04-28 21:46 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-28 23:38 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-29 9:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 1:36 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-05-08 10:08 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-08 10:44 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-29 7:55 ` Greg Ungerer
2011-04-29 6:08 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-29 8:31 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:31 ` [PATCH 10/14] at91: switch st " Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 18:40 ` [PATCH 11/14] at91: move pit timer to drivers/clocksource Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-25 19:14 ` [PATCH 12/14] at91: move st " Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 1:11 ` [PATCH 13/14] at91: move register clocks to soc generic init Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 3:13 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 1:11 ` [PATCH 14/14] at91: move clock subsystem init " Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 3:13 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 4:13 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-26 4:32 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-26 4:32 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-27 21:13 ` [PATCH 0/14] at91: factorize soc init and switch to early platform Ryan Mallon
2011-04-28 2:26 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 2:41 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2011-04-28 3:59 ` Ryan Mallon
2011-04-28 4:14 ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
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