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From: skannan@codeaurora.org (Saravana Kannan)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 01/10] Add a common struct clk
Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 17:22:01 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4DBF4AA9.7010309@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110502223636.GB28001@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 05/02/2011 03:36 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:30:10AM -0500, Rob Herring wrote:
>> On 05/01/2011 10:40 PM, Jeremy Kerr wrote:
>>> Hi Rob,
>>>
>>>> I think you will find many examples in the kernel where that is not done
>>>> by drivers.
>>>
>>> Drivers should be checking the return value of clk_get - if they don't,
>>> it's a bug. This is the logical place to check, rather than before all
>>> clock API calls.
>>
>> Maybe so, but it's common practice. Why not allow it, but add a warning?
>> Or allow NULL, but not an error value.
>
> If drivers don't check the return value of clk_get() then they'll suffer
> kernel oopses.  What's to say that if the driver doesn't check the return
> value from clk_get() that they'll bother checking the return value from
> any of the other clk_* API functions.  Nothing.
>
> So, checking for ERR values inside the clk_* functions is silly, and just
> means that buggy drivers continue with undiscovered bugs because they
> happen not to fail.
>
>>> For cases where there is no clock provided for the device (but is a
>>> valid clock on some machines), the platform code should return a no-op
>>> clock from the clk_get call. This 'noop clock' would be a good contender
>>> for inclusion into the kernel-wide infrastructure, like clk_fixed.
>>
>> There could be cases where the driver wants to know if there is no
>> clock.
>
> How exactly would a driver know that the clock it has is a no-op clock
> with it being a pointer to some random data structure?  A better question
> would be in the case of a cpufreq driver, how would such a driver know
> that it's pointless trying to set the rate on a fixed rate clock?
>
> There's soo many combinations here where you can say "if a clock has
> property X, then maybe the driver doesn't want to do Y".  So, instead
> of trying to cover all the possibilities, take a step back and look at
> the bigger picture.
>
> 1. in a cpufreq driver, if it gets a clock, one would hope that the
> clock it has been provided with is adjustable - in other words,
> clk_set_rate() stands a chance of succeeding.  If it fails, then it
> has the wrong clock.
>
> 2. if the clock it has does not support adjustments in this way, then
> there is a bug in the data involved in selecting that clock, and that's
> what's at fault.  You find this out when you try to change its rate
> via clk_set_rate() which should fail.
>
> 3. (to head off something that I can see being proposed) no, I don't
> think we need a system of properties.
>
> A cpufreq driver which obtains clks should be no different from any
> other driver.  It should get a clk via clk_get(), and report errors if
> that fails.  If clk_set_rate() fails, then it should report that error
> too.  There's really nothing "special" here.
>
> This does bring us to an interesting question though: should clk_set_rate()
> succeed or fail with a NULL clk?  There is no clock to control, so my
> feeling is that it should fail, just like clk_get_rate() should return
> zero because the rate is meaningless.  There is no rate to get and no
> rate to set.

I think having NULL clocks return success on set_rate() would be more 
useful. The most common use case for NULL clocks is when a clocks is 
present in some soc/arch/mach but is not present in another. Instead of 
having the consumers having an "if" around every clk_* calls on that 
clk, they would get a NULL clk. If NULL clk starts failing for 
clk_set_rate(), I think the point of a NULL clk will get defeated.

-Saravana

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  reply	other threads:[~2011-05-03  0:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-15 19:08 [RFC] sanitizing crazy clock data files Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 01/10] Add a common struct clk Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 19:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22  0:28     ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-22  9:23       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-23 14:08         ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-23 15:30           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-24  2:54             ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-24  7:20             ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-24  9:55               ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-22  4:57     ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22  9:13       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:09     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 10:45       ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:58         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-29 11:01         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 18:30           ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-30  8:06   ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-30  9:01     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 16:30       ` Linus Walleij
2011-05-01 20:33   ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02  1:09     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-05-02  3:09       ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02  3:40         ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-05-02 16:30           ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 22:36             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-03  0:22               ` Saravana Kannan [this message]
2011-05-04  6:40                 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-05-04 18:33                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-04 23:35               ` Paul Walmsley
2011-05-10 20:06                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-02 16:55           ` David Brown
2011-05-02 17:31             ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 02/10] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/10] clk: Make NULL a valid clock again Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19  0:53   ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-19  6:25     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-20 12:53   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/10] clk: implement parent pass through functions Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18  9:25   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18  9:48     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 17:20   ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-19 17:53     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 19:09       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-19 20:58         ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 21:54         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20  7:16           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20  8:34             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 14:07           ` [PATCH RFC] clk: add support for automatic parent handling Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 16:16             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 18:59               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 19:52                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21  6:58                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 10:33                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 19:22                       ` torbenh
2011-04-23 23:26                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-21  7:22                   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-21  9:12                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 10:31                       ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 11:42                         ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-21 14:52                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22  7:09                             ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-22  8:22                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 14:29                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:37                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 11:01                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 11:06                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 12:13                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 13:26                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 15:31                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 22:07                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:16                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 22:19                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:47                                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-30 14:27                                 ` torbenh
2011-05-03  6:35                                   ` Colin Cross
2011-05-05  8:35                                     ` torbenh
2011-05-03  2:44                                 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-03  2:46                                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 10:13                     ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 11:39                       ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-21  7:42                   ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21  9:21                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 11:50                       ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 12:20                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 12:35                           ` Mark Brown
2011-04-25  2:03                             ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 10:57                               ` Mark Brown
2011-04-25 14:41                                 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 14:44                                   ` Mark Brown
2011-04-29 10:49                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 11:11                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 11:38                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 12:19                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 13:27                                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 15:47                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 12:06                       ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 15:38                         ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22  0:23                           ` Colin Cross
2011-04-22  9:51                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 16:14                               ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 16:39                               ` Colin Cross
2011-04-22 16:57                                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 22:26                                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 22:55                                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-23  0:48                                       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-23 23:34                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-22  4:54                           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22  9:06                             ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:30                   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 10:51                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:56                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-24  9:45             ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-24 20:14               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-29 10:20       ` [PATCH 04/10] clk: implement parent pass through functions Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/10] clk: Add support for simple dividers Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18  9:49   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 10:07     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19  2:45       ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-19  7:32         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-19  8:55           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-19  9:31             ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 22:28               ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-20  6:36                 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-20 21:45                   ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21  7:39                     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-28 15:14         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-03  3:37           ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-03  7:12             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-28 15:22     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02  7:58       ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 22:40   ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-19  0:32     ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-19  5:41       ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-24 13:48   ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 18:51     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-26  1:54       ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/10] clk: Add support for a generic clock multiplexer Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 13:15   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 13:33     ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 13:54       ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 17:54       ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-18 18:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-18 18:41           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-18 18:46             ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/10] ARM i.MX: Support for clock building blocks Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/10] ARM i.MX: Add generic support for pllv2 Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/10] ARM i.MX51/53: reimplement clock support Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/10] ARM i.MX51/53: remove old " Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:36 ` [RFC] sanitizing crazy clock data files Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:12   ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 20:25     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:28       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:49         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18  4:07     ` Shawn Guo
2011-04-15 20:45 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18  7:42 ` Sascha Hauer

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