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From: snakky.zhang@gmail.com (snakky.zhang at gmail.com)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Query about: ARM11 MPCore: preemption/task migration cache coherency
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:21:56 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4FC85174.9090401@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120601032532.GA16273@mbp>

On 2012?06?01? 11:25, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 02:11:59AM +0100, snakky.zhang at gmail.com wrote:
>> On 2012?06?01? 00:04, Catalin Marinas wrote:
>>> Rather than IPI we would better use the read-for-ownership trick like
>>> in this patch to make flush_dcache_page global (no need for
>>> write-for-ownership):
>> I think write for ownership is necessary for flush_dcache_xxx: Read
>> guarantee local data cache get newest data, at the same time write
>> guarantee the data can be flushed into memory.
>>
>> See Section 7.1 of ARM11 MPCore. Processor Technical Reference
>> Manual(Revision: r2p0) P146/728:
>> ======
>> Clean Applies to write-back data caches. If the cache line targeted by
>> the Clean operation contains stored data that has not yet been written
>> out to main memory, it is written to main memory, and the line is
>> marked as clean.
>> ======
>>
>> So I am afraid without the write action, the "clean&  invalidate"
>> action later will not write data back to main memory.
> If there is a dirty cache line, it will be written to memory by the
> clean&invalidate operation. If the data in the cache line is in a clean
> state, it means that it is identical to the main memory (or L2 if
> present).
>
> With just a read, clean&invalidate would not invalidate (remove) the
> cache lines from the other CPUs. Doing a write forces the cache line to
> only be present on the current CPU (though automatically invalidating it
> on the other CPUs).
>
>> Another question here:  Why the flush_kern_dcache_xxx in
>> arch/arm/mm/cache-v6 use "clean&  invalidate" progress instead of
>> "clean"? Seems clean is enough here.
> I think in the context of VIPT caches clean would be enough.
>
>>> http://dchs.spinics.net/lists/arm-kernel/msg125075.html
>>>
>>> (it may no longer apply, I haven't checked it for some time).
>>>
>>> That's the first thing. Secondly you still need preemption disable so
>>> that it is not preempted between RFO and the actual cache cleaning.
>> PREEMPT. :-)
>>
>> Get it. But currently, I can't find anything related to ARMv6 MPCore
>> conflict with PREEMPT. So if it is also necessary to add something in
>> Documentation and related Kconfig to describe it and make sure PREEMPT
>> can't been enabled on such CPUs?
> Well, we either get it to work or, if not possible, we add a comment.
> Let's try the former option first :)
>
Thanks for your patient explanation. :-)

Thanks a lot!
Xiao

  reply	other threads:[~2012-06-01  5:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-05-09  9:11 Query about: ARM11 MPCore: preemption/task migration cache coherency bill4carson
2012-05-11  8:51 ` Will Deacon
2012-05-11  9:53   ` bill4carson
2012-05-29  5:28   ` bill4carson
2012-05-30  6:38     ` Will Deacon
2012-05-30 10:01       ` bill4carson
2012-05-31  3:00         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-05-31  3:11           ` bill4carson
2012-05-31  3:12             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-05-31  3:19             ` Catalin Marinas
2012-05-31  3:38               ` bill4carson
2012-05-31  3:58                 ` Catalin Marinas
2012-05-31  5:06                   ` bill4carson
2012-05-31  5:19                     ` Catalin Marinas
2012-05-31  5:51                       ` bill4carson
2012-05-31  6:56                         ` Catalin Marinas
2012-05-31  7:21                           ` bill4carson
2012-05-31  7:46                             ` snakky.zhang at gmail.com
2012-05-31 16:04                               ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-01  1:11                                 ` snakky.zhang at gmail.com
2012-06-01  3:25                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-01  5:21                                     ` snakky.zhang at gmail.com [this message]
2012-06-01  1:34                                 ` snakky.zhang at gmail.com
2012-06-01  3:29                                   ` Catalin Marinas
2012-06-03 11:34                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-06-04  9:20                                       ` snakky.zhang at gmail.com
2012-06-05  4:06 ` George G. Davis
2012-06-05  4:50   ` bill4carson
2012-06-06  6:18     ` Andrew Yan-Pai Chen

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