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From: ben.dooks@codethink.co.uk (Ben Dooks)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ARM big-endian on current kernels for linux-3.8
Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 11:18:35 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <511B768B.7000302@codethink.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <511B69C7.1080200@parrot.com>

On 13/02/13 10:24, Matthieu CASTET wrote:
> Ben Dooks a ?crit :
>> On 12/02/13 17:13, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 11:17:30PM +0000, Ben Dooks wrote:
>>>> I have been working on getting big-endian kernels working, mainly from
>>>> little-endian boot envrionments. The following patch series is what I
>>>> have been working on, mainly on the highbank and axp systems.
>>> What is missing from this is the justification about why we need this
>>> additional pain, given that all the supporting userspaces today are all
>>> LE based.
>>>
>>> Sure, I know that telcos have an endless love of big endian and don't
>>> understand anything else, but getting this working on non-telco socs
>>> seems to be a little odd.
>>
>> Our problem is we have some code that works on a lot of big endian data
>> but is not easy to re-build to work on ARM little endian. The current
>> solution is to change to running the system big endian.
>>
>> Unfortunately we cannot just run user-space big endian as the MMU is
>> fetched in the same endian mode as the processor's data.
>>
> Which architecture are you using ?
>
> On armv7 the mmu endian mode is selected by SCTLR.EE [1], but userspace can
> change it's endian with setend instruction [2].
>
> As the endian state is stored in cpsr, it should be preserved across context switch.

Ah yes, I got confused as there is also an endian mode for the page
tables that needs to match the endian mode that the kernel is doing
loads/stores in.

However if we had BE userland with LE kernel then things are going to
get difficult with a BE<>LE syscall issue.

-- 
Ben Dooks				http://www.codethink.co.uk/
Senior Engineer				Codethink - Providing Genius

  reply	other threads:[~2013-02-13 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-08 23:17 ARM big-endian on current kernels for linux-3.8 Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 01/17] ARM: add CPU_BE8_BOOT_LE configuration Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  4:10   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 16:46     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 02/17] ARM: set BE8 if LE in head code Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  3:33   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 16:47     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 21:38   ` Rob Herring
2013-02-09 21:56     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-11 19:35     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 03/17] ARM: fix ARCH_IXP4xx usage of ARCH_SUPPORTS_BIG_ENDIAN Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 04/17] ARM: Add ARCH_SUPPORTS_BIG_ENDIAN Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 11:55   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-09 16:55     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 05/17] ARM: fixup_pv_table bug when CPU_ENDIAN_BE8 Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  3:40   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-11 19:11     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 21:45       ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 06/17] ARM: fixup head for atag verification Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  3:51   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 17:09     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 07/17] ARM: twd: data endian fix Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 08/17] ARM: smp_scu: data endian fixes Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 09/17] ARM: add atag32_to_cpu() function Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  3:57   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 12:03   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-11 19:15     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-11 19:30       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-12 18:46       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-02-12 20:34         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 10/17] ARM: update atag-to-fdt code to be endian agnostic Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  3:57   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 12:05   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-11 19:16     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 21:53       ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-13 11:27         ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-14  4:43           ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-15 11:28             ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 11/17] ARM: fixup atags " Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  4:03   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 12:06   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 12/17] ARM: fix magic for bootloader in BE8 Ben Dooks
2013-02-09  4:06   ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-09 12:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-12 18:50       ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-02-12 18:54         ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 19:52           ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2013-02-11 19:17     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 21:57       ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 13/17] ARM: pl01x debug code endian fix Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 12:09   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-11 19:19     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 14/17] highbank: enable big-endian Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 21:33   ` Rob Herring
2013-02-09 22:00     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 15/17] xgmac: fix printing of hardware version Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 12:10   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-09 17:20     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 21:35   ` Rob Herring
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 16/17] xgmac: replace __raw with relaxed IO Ben Dooks
2013-02-09 20:59   ` Rob Herring
2013-02-09 22:03     ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-08 23:17 ` [PATCH 17/17] mvebu: support running big-endian Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 17:08 ` ARM big-endian on current kernels for linux-3.8 Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 17:25   ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 18:49     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 18:54       ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-13  9:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2013-02-12 17:13 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-02-12 17:33   ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-12 22:13     ` Nicolas Pitre
2013-02-13 11:00       ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-13 10:24     ` Matthieu CASTET
2013-02-13 11:18       ` Ben Dooks [this message]
2013-02-13 15:52         ` Catalin Marinas
2013-02-13 16:02           ` Ben Dooks
2013-02-13 16:03           ` Arnd Bergmann

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