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From: jonathan@jonmasters.org (Jon Masters)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: ACPI vs DT at runtime
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 15:43:41 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <528A7BFD.4020303@jonmasters.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20131118192552.GD5886@quad.lixom.net>

On 11/18/2013 02:25 PM, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 12:26:11AM -0500, Jon Masters wrote:
>> On 11/18/2013 12:19 AM, Jon Masters wrote:
>>
>>> It's going to be a messy thing to even attempt. Look, I wish we had a
>>> time machine and could have done this whole thing years ago, but I'm not
>>> sure it would have gone differently. ACPI is something a lot of people
>>> emotionally hate. In the Enterprise space myself and others *need* it
>>> (along with UEFI) to have a scalable solution that doesn't result in an
>>> onslaught of customer support calls, which a non-standards body backed
>>> moving target of DTB will do. And besides all of the big boys are going
>>> to be using ACPI whether it's liked much or not.
>>
>> A while ago I mentioned producing a series of requirements that
>> articulates what Red Hat thinks an ARMv8 server looks like. Suffice it
>> to say that such requirements do in fact exist, and will be made
>> available in the not too distant future as part of another doc.
> 
> It's nice that there's an unpublished document with a RedHat logo on it
> somewhere that mandates what we, the kernel project, is going to do.
> 
> I thought both RedHat and you personally knew that we don't do things
> that way in the kernel, Jon. Published or not.

Olof, I understand completely. My hands are unfortunately tied and it's
not of my making (or my employer) on this front. In the ARM space, there
are a lot of entities involved when it comes to anything at all, and you
know what the NDA situation is like. I am pushing to get a few things
out there for broader consumption.

Jon.

  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-18 20:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-15  1:44 ACPI vs DT at runtime Olof Johansson
2013-11-15  9:57 ` Mark Rutland
     [not found]   ` <20131115175241. GB27174@quad.lixom.net>
2013-11-15 17:52   ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 18:08     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-15 18:42       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 19:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 23:21         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:05           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 15:19             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 15:46               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 16:11               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:10             ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:26               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 19:40                 ` Mark Brown
2013-11-21 16:00           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-15 18:13     ` David Goodenough
2013-11-21 16:15       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 17:47     ` Jon Masters
2013-11-19 11:30     ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:35       ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 11:51         ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 11:57       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-19 13:56       ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-19 14:38         ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 14:59           ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-19 18:23           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 14:05       ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 15:21         ` Mark Rutland
2013-11-19 16:19           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 18:34           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19 19:06           ` Tom Rini
2013-11-19 18:19       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 16:37         ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 16:29       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:01         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:38           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 17:58         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:19           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-11-21 18:33           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:54           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]             ` < CAOesGMgzUSMDy99XojipfRd5OM88UhfbCYO0aoc5m-Q8Fwnddg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]               ` < 20131121190126.GZ16735@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>
2013-11-21 18:59             ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 19:01               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 19:31                 ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 20:44                   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 18:53         ` Mark Brown
2013-11-15 18:28   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2013-11-15 18:57     ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18  5:19   ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18  5:26     ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 19:25       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 20:43         ` Jon Masters [this message]
2013-11-18 21:25           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18  7:22     ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-18 13:55     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-18 15:00     ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 19:13       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-19  9:12         ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-19 18:48           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-20  6:40             ` Richard Cochran
2013-11-21 18:16               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-21 19:21               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-21 20:47                 ` Grant Likely
2013-11-22 11:43                   ` Catalin Marinas
2013-11-22 12:00                     ` Pantelis Antoniou
2014-05-05  7:06                       ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 14:41                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-05 15:29                           ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-05 17:29                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-05-06 15:37                             ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 15:27                         ` Grant Likely
2014-05-06 16:32                           ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 15:28     ` Rob Herring
2013-11-18 19:09     ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 20:54       ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 21:50         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 21:32       ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 22:47         ` David Goodenough
2013-11-19 12:48           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-19 13:34             ` David Goodenough
2013-11-19 16:52               ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-21 18:23           ` Grant Likely
2013-11-19 14:33     ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 13:49   ` Grant Likely
2013-11-20 17:43     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-20 17:47       ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-15 20:58 ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-15 21:44   ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-17 17:18     ` Stefano Stabellini
2013-11-17 18:10       ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]         ` < CAOesGMiYyOcvr3Aqs-p8zc=XDwJM9NZtNxtxrTZssc6F=siZCw@mail.gmail.com>
2013-11-17 22:20         ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18  8:45           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 17:33             ` Jon Masters
2013-11-18 17:38               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2013-11-18 19:21               ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-21 18:26               ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 15:04         ` Mark Brown
2013-11-18 15:10           ` Arnd Bergmann
2013-11-18 21:38             ` Grant Likely
2013-11-18 23:25 ` Leif Lindholm
2013-11-18 23:29   ` Olof Johansson
2013-11-18 23:34     ` Leif Lindholm

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