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From: swarren@wwwdotorg.org (Stephen Warren)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: More GPIO madness on iMX6 - and the crappy ARM port of Linux
Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 13:42:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52D995C4.80104@wwwdotorg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140117202405.GF15937@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 01/17/2014 01:24 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:40:02PM -0700, Stephen Warren wrote:
>> On 01/17/2014 11:47 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
>>> So, we have this wonderful GPIO layer which abstracts GPIO stuff and
>>> hides stuff.  It's really wonderful, because you don't have to care
>>> about how the GPIOs are actually accessed in drivers anymore.
>> ...
>>> 1. What should gpio_get_value() return for an output?
>>
>> Some HW can't ever read back the value of an output pin, so isn't
>> calling gpio_get_value() undefined for output pins?
> 
> As has been pointed out, that's not how gpio_get_valie() is documented.
> It's documented to return the value of the pin where possible.  In my
> case, it _is_ possible to read back the value of the pin - it just
> needs the appropriate chip configuration to make it happen.
> 
> Now to the crunch point of my email: where subsystems differ completely
> _unnecessarily_ from what is expected from them - such as returning the
> current state of the output where it's possible to do so - then this
> kind of difference *reduces* the portability of that subsystem, and
> makes being able to move from one SoC to another _unnecessarily_ more
> difficult.

If the gpio_get_value() was guaranteed never to be valid for an output
pin, that would actually be *more* portable, not less; it would work the
same way everywhere.

I believe you want gpio_get_value() to return either the driven or
actual pin value where it can on the current HW, but just e.g. hard-code
0 on other HW. That would introduce a core feature that works some
places but not others, and hence make drivers that relied on the feature
less portable between HW with different actual features.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-01-17 20:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-01-17 18:47 More GPIO madness on iMX6 - and the crappy ARM port of Linux Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-01-17 19:13 ` Eric Nelson
2014-01-17 19:33   ` Eric Nelson
2014-01-17 19:40 ` Stephen Warren
2014-01-17 20:20   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2014-01-17 20:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-01-17 21:53       ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-17 23:09     ` Eric Nelson
2014-01-17 20:24   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-01-17 20:42     ` Stephen Warren [this message]
2014-01-17 20:53       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-01-17 22:43         ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-21  2:55           ` Alexandre Courbot
2014-01-21  7:11             ` Lothar Waßmann
2014-01-21  9:26             ` Linus Walleij
2014-01-17 19:57 ` Arnaud Patard (Rtp)
2014-01-17 20:12   ` Eric Nelson
2014-01-17 20:33     ` Arnaud Patard (Rtp)
2014-01-17 22:02       ` Eric Nelson

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