From: cov@codeaurora.org (Christopher Covington)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC] ARM VM System Sepcification
Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 18:13:27 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <530E7517.2010806@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL_Jsq+3jBdca9zVnxHG+7pxy2_316emsP=PB3WkTMQP0JYBYQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 02/26/2014 05:49 PM, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
>> On Wednesday 26 February 2014 10:34:54 Christoffer Dall wrote:
>>> ARM VM System Specification
>>> ===========================
>>>
>>> Goal
>>> ----
>>> The goal of this spec is to allow suitably-built OS images to run on
>>> all ARM virtualization solutions, such as KVM or Xen.
>>>
>>> Recommendations in this spec are valid for aarch32 and aarch64 alike, and
>>> they aim to be hypervisor agnostic.
>>>
>>> Note that simply adhering to the SBSA [2] is not a valid approach,
>>> for example because the SBSA mandates EL2, which will not be available
>>> for VMs. Further, the SBSA mandates peripherals like the pl011, which
>>> may be controversial for some ARM VM implementations to support.
>>> This spec also covers the aarch32 execution mode, not covered in the
>>> SBSA.
>>
>> I would prefer if we can stay as close as possible to SBSA for individual
>> hardware components, and only stray from it when there is a strong reason.
>> pl011-subset doesn't sound like a significant problem to implement,
>> especially as SBSA makes the DMA part of that optional. Can you
>> elaborate on what hypervisor would have a problem with that?
>
> The SBSA only spec's a very minimal pl011 subset which is only
> suitable for early serial output. Not only is there no DMA, but there
> are no interrupts and maybe no input. I think it also assumes the uart
> is enabled and configured already by firmware. It is all somewhat
> pointless because the location is still not known or discoverable by
> early code. Just mandating a real pl011 would have been better, but I
> guess uart IP is value add for some. There is a downside to the pl011
> which is the tty name is different from x86 uarts which gets exposed
> to users and things like libvirt.
Can you just use /dev/console? That's what I use in my init scripts for
portability from PL011 to DCC.
Christopher
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-02-26 18:34 [RFC] ARM VM System Sepcification Christoffer Dall
[not found] ` < CACxGe6tjuytsYAn6Hadf0AK+REzHgRydgbHPafL8+Sdtd_tMUA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-02-26 19:27 ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-26 19:51 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 13:12 ` Christopher Covington
2014-02-27 16:02 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-01 15:41 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 19:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-26 20:05 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-26 20:22 ` Arnd Bergmann
[not found] ` < CABGGisxHOVqLcG7hVAuAzdeic41KWSLLBSjQLSJQcjTXLhNCow@mail.gmail.com>
2014-02-26 21:56 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 22:21 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 7:30 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 10:05 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-01 19:12 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27 9:35 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-02-26 20:19 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-02-26 20:20 ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 21:48 ` Leif Lindholm
2014-02-26 22:25 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-01 19:20 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-27 12:31 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-02-27 14:00 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-27 14:24 ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-27 19:56 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-28 0:05 ` Alexander Graf
2014-02-28 10:01 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-02-28 14:44 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-03-01 19:25 ` Grant Likely
2014-02-26 22:49 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 22:54 ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-26 23:08 ` Rob Herring
2014-02-26 23:14 ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-27 4:06 ` Nicolas Pitre
2014-02-27 11:36 ` Robie Basak
2014-02-26 23:13 ` Christopher Covington [this message]
2014-02-26 21:05 ` Michael Hudson-Doyle
2014-02-26 21:08 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 0:41 ` Blibbet
[not found] ` <CACxGe6tjuytsYAn6Hadf0AK+REzHgRydgbHPafL8+Sdtd_tMUA@mail.gmail.com>
2014-02-26 22:47 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-02-27 12:27 ` Stefano Stabellini
2014-03-01 19:54 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-02 9:29 ` Peter Maydell
2014-02-27 12:55 ` Peter Maydell
[not found] ` <20140226134251.0436294e@anubis.ausil.us>
[not found] ` <CAMJs5B9bCs8Oz2Zg4UK--A3H4AaZRPMwy7SpxYom-1--_=qhBQ@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <20140226151536.58154704@anubis.ausil.us>
2014-02-27 17:34 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-01 15:27 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-03 1:13 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-06 8:52 ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06 9:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-06 11:44 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-06 12:04 ` Robie Basak
2014-03-06 12:10 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-07 12:24 ` Grant Likely
[not found] ` < 20140322010206.GF25519@cbox>
2014-03-22 2:29 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-22 8:08 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-23 3:19 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-23 3:29 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-24 9:57 ` Robie Basak
2014-03-24 10:46 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22 12:23 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 19:57 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-22 22:35 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-22 23:38 ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-23 0:33 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-23 3:23 ` Christoffer Dall
2014-03-24 9:03 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 10:41 ` Paolo Bonzini
2014-03-24 10:47 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-24 12:13 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-24 12:16 ` Ian Campbell
2014-03-07 12:19 ` Grant Likely
2014-03-08 11:41 ` Michael Casadevall
2014-03-08 20:41 ` Laszlo Ersek
2014-03-07 12:09 ` Grant Likely
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