From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: pbonzini@redhat.com (Paolo Bonzini) Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:46:13 +0100 Subject: [RFC] ARM VM System Sepcification In-Reply-To: <20140324095723.GJ23363@mal.justgohome.co.uk> References: <20140301152756.67A02C40238@trevor.secretlab.ca> <20140306085213.GU643@mal.justgohome.co.uk> <531843EE.8040102@redhat.com> <53185FB9.1040308@redhat.com> <20140306120449.GA29916@mal.justgohome.co.uk> <20140307122418.2F2C4C408EC@trevor.secretlab.ca> <20140322010206.GF25519@cbox> <532D4505.1090603@redhat.com> <20140323031952.GB30885@cbox> <20140323032939.GD30885@cbox> <20140324095723.GJ23363@mal.justgohome.co.uk> Message-ID: <53300CF5.5090808@redhat.com> To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org List-Id: linux-arm-kernel.lists.infradead.org Il 24/03/2014 10:57, Robie Basak ha scritto: >> > After thinking about this a bit more, I think I see what we're actually >> > discussing. It's obvious that if software in a VM makes changes to UEFI >> > variables that are required to be persistent for that VM image to boot >> > again, then the VM image is no longer portable, as per the spec. > No longer portable, and given the current state of implementation, no > longer bootable, since we don't support persistent storage yet; > certainly not on OpenStack? Or do we have that now? > > Are we really pushing ahead with a specification that nobody can > implement today? How far away are we from a fully compliant > implementation? The spec says SHOULD, so I think it's fine. While support for persistent variables in the KVM stack is in the early stages, there is request and it is not ARM-specific. It will be implemented sooner rather than later at least at the libvirt level, and I suppose qemu-arm, xl, OpenStack/, Virt, XenServer and everything else will follow soon. Paolo