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From: koen@dominion.thruhere.net (Koen Kooi)
Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 14:58:09 +0200
Subject: [linux-sunxi] simplefb: add clock handling
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Op 13 aug. 2014, om 14:17 heeft Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> het volgende geschreven:

>> So what you are saying is that the only reason it is needed is because some
>> distros choose to build DRM drivers as modules.  So as soon as they stop
>> doing that the problem goes away, right?
> 
> I think many people will be very happy to be able to get some visual
> feedback on their boot problems.  Having to connect a serial console is
> a deal breaker for most people.

As was said earlier in the thread, a proper DRM/KMS driver doesn't prevent that. The only thing preventing that would be:

a) kernels with graphics drivers disabled
b) kernels with graphics drivers as modules that get loaded late.

Please stop insinuation that DRM/KMS drivers can't handle boot messages.