From: holler@ahsoftware.de (Alexander Holler)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 1/9] dt: deps: dtc: Automatically add new property 'dependencies' which contains a list of referenced phandles
Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 19:26:28 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <537A3EC4.9060801@ahsoftware.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJgR-BhRtc1XGqk-TVOrf2y_pYS+nratkPrf+OenP4SFcyK3ng@mail.gmail.com>
Am 19.05.2014 17:49, schrieb Jon Loeliger:
> [ Crap. Sorry about the duplicate post. Stupid HTML; didn't hit the
> lists. -- jdl ]
>
>
>> What's still questionable about the patches for dtc is if dependencies to
>> devices and not just drivers should be included in the new property
>> dependencies too.
>
> I don't think the DTC should have any semantic knowledge of why these
> dependency arcs are being added to the graph. Sure, it could be that
> different types of arcs are added, and that the total dependency graph
> travels multiple such arc types to obtains some valid topological sort,
> but the DTC itself should just not care.
I will remove those policies (which means including all dependencies).
As said below, I already thought it was evil premature optimization (I
did in order to make the graph a bit smaller and to save some bytes).
(No date, it isn't a paid project so I will do it whenever I feel good
to do so).
> After saying that, there are likely semantic checks that could be added to
> ensure some policy about those arcs was followed. Separate the
> implementation from the policy. There is already plenty of discussion
> down that line within the DTC ongoing.
Hmm, discussion about what? Those dependencies or about semantic checks?
Btw., if someone has a problem with the necessary time to do the
topological sort at boot time (needs a few ms on a single core omap with
600 MHz), there could be an additional option to add a new property
which includes the whole (already topological sorted) list. That
wouldn't be much effort. But currently I don't think any DT enabled
device is in need of having to avoid doing the topological sort itself.
Regards,
Alexander Holler
>
> HTH,
> jdl
>
>
> On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 7:35 AM, Alexander Holler <holler@ahsoftware.de>wrote:
>
>> Am 17.05.2014 14:16, schrieb Tomasz Figa:
>>
>>
>> References to phandles of parent or child nodes will not be added to this
>>>> property, because this information is already contained in the blob (in
>>>> the
>>>> form of the tree itself).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I wonder if we shouldn't be including them too for consistency related
>>> reasons, so we have all the necessary information in one place.
>>> References to child nodes are great recipes for cycles, though...
>>>
>>> No strong opinion, though, just an idea.
>>>
>>
>> As said, they are already in the tree itself. And they are already
>> included in the graph (these are the black edges), so they just don't
>> appear in the property dependencies.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> No dependencies to disabled nodes will be added.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Same here. IMHO it might be wise to let the parsing entity (e.g. kernel)
>>> decide whether to ignore a dependency to disabled node or not.
>>>
>>> Otherwise, I like the simplicity of compile-time dependency list
>>> creation. Quite a nice work.
>>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> What's still questionable about the patches for dtc is if dependencies to
>> devices and not just drivers should be included in the new property
>> dependencies too. My current assumption is that all devices belonging to
>> one and the same driver don't have dependencies between each other. In
>> other words the order in which devices will be attached to one and the same
>> driver isn't important. If that assumption is correct it would be possible
>> to just attach all devices belonging to a driver after the driver was
>> loaded (also I haven't that done in my patches).
>>
>> And thinking about that again, I think I was wrong and doing so have been
>> some kind of evil premature optimization I did in order to spare a few
>> dependencies/edges. But changing this can done by removing a few lines in
>> the code for dtc (patch 1).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Alexander Holler
>>
>>
>>
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Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-05-12 16:47 [RFC PATCH 0/9] dt: dependencies (for deterministic driver initialization order based on the DT) Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] dt: deps: dtc: Automatically add new property 'dependencies' which contains a list of referenced phandles Alexander Holler
2014-05-17 12:16 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-19 12:35 ` Alexander Holler
[not found] ` <CAJgR-BhRtc1XGqk-TVOrf2y_pYS+nratkPrf+OenP4SFcyK3ng@mail.gmail.com>
2014-05-19 17:26 ` Alexander Holler [this message]
2014-05-27 20:02 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-27 20:31 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] dt: deps: dependency based device creation Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 14:05 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-14 14:49 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 17:20 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 20:06 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-14 21:10 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-16 11:00 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-18 9:53 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-16 17:31 ` Alexander Shiyan
2014-05-14 15:51 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-17 14:24 ` Tomasz Figa
2014-05-18 14:59 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-19 8:41 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] dt: deps: dtc: Add option to print initialization order Alexander Holler
[not found] ` <CAJgR-BhnFngGr9qxa7NvF7GExiCAr1=HS16AtN20uj7nCmLcKQ@mail.gmail.com>
2014-05-12 22:58 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] dt: deps: dtc: Add option to print dependency graph as dot (Graphviz) Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] dt: deps: register drivers based on the initialization order based on DT Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 14:13 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-14 14:58 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 19:32 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] dt: deps: WIP: well done drivers Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] dt: deps: kirkwood: make it possible to use CONFIG_OF_DEPENDENCIES Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:47 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] dt: deps: dts: kirkwood: dockstar: add dependency ehci -> usb power regulator Alexander Holler
2014-05-12 16:48 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] dt: deps: omap2: make it possible to use CONFIG_OF_DEPENDENCIES Alexander Holler
2014-05-13 15:40 ` [PATCH 10/9] dt: deps: fix bug not registering late drivers when OF_DEPENDENCIES is disabled Alexander Holler
2014-05-13 19:27 ` [RFC PATCH 11/9] dt: deps: dtc: introduce new (virtual) property no-dependencies Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH 0/9] dt: dependencies (for deterministic driver initialization order based on the DT) Grant Likely
2014-05-14 15:02 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 16:05 ` Grant Likely
2014-05-14 16:23 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 17:30 ` Rob Herring
2014-05-14 17:45 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 17:53 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 18:16 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 19:13 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 19:06 ` Rob Herring
2014-05-14 19:24 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-15 1:46 ` Alexander Holler
2014-05-14 23:00 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-21 14:02 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-21 19:19 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-22 13:19 ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-22 15:45 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-25 9:39 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 13:08 ` Jon Loeliger
2014-08-25 13:37 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-25 14:13 ` Jon Loeliger
2014-08-25 14:41 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 8:42 ` Grant Likely
2014-08-26 8:49 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 9:42 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 10:11 ` Mark Rutland
2014-08-26 10:24 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 10:34 ` Grant Likely
2014-08-27 14:44 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-27 16:22 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-27 16:30 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-27 16:37 ` Stephen Warren
2014-08-27 16:58 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-27 17:52 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-27 18:14 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-28 6:50 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-28 9:23 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-08-29 1:43 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 10:25 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 10:44 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 11:01 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 11:08 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 11:23 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 11:47 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-26 12:00 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 13:58 ` Jon Loeliger
2014-08-26 14:17 ` Thierry Reding
2014-08-27 7:16 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-27 9:26 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 7:56 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 8:51 ` Grant Likely
2014-08-26 9:56 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 10:18 ` Alexander Holler
2014-08-26 9:54 ` Mark Rutland
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