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From: Nathan_Lynch@mentor.com (Nathan Lynch)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 0/3] arm_arch_timer: VDSO preparation, code consolidation
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:28:02 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5420BE92.7050504@mentor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140922223022.GO5182@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk>

On 09/22/2014 05:30 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 04:39:19PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 03:59:32PM +0100, Nathan Lynch wrote:
>>> This series contains the necessary changes to allow architected timer
>>> access from user-space on 32-bit ARM.  This allows the VDSO to support
>>> high resolution timestamps for clock_gettime and gettimeofday.  This
>>> also merges substantially similar code from arm and arm64 into the
>>> core arm_arch_timer driver.
>>>
>>> The functional changes are:
>>> - When available, CNTVCT is made readable by user space on arm, as it
>>>   is on arm64.
>>> - The clocksource name becomes "arch_mem_counter" if CP15 access to
>>>   the counter is not available.
>>>
>>> These changes have been carried as part of the ARM VDSO patch set over
>>> the last several months, but I am splitting them out here as I assume
>>> they should go through the clocksource maintainers.
>>
>> For the series:
>>
>>   Acked-by: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
>>
>> I'm not sure which tree the arch-timer stuff usually goes through, but
>> the arm/arm64 bits look fine so I'm happy for them to merged together.
> 
> I raised a while back with Will whether there's much point to having
> this on ARM.  While it's useful for virtualisation, the majority of
> 32-bit ARM doesn't run virtualised.  So there's little point in having
> the VDSO on the majority of platforms - it will just add additional
> unnecessary cycles slowing down the system calls that the VDSO is
> designed to try to speed up.

Hmm, this patch set is merely exposing the hardware counter when it is
present for the VDSO's use; I take it you have no objection to that?

While the 32-bit ARM VDSO I've posted (in a different thread) exploits a
facility that is required by the virtualization option in the
architecture, its utility is not limited to guest operating systems.


> So, my view is that this VDSO will only be of very limited use for
> 32-bit ARM, and should not be exposed to userspace unless there is
> a reason for it to be exposed (iow, the hardware necessary to support
> it is present.)

My thinking is that it should prove useful in a growing subset of v7
CPUs.  It is useful today on Cortex-A15 and -A7, and I believe -A12 and
-A17 implement the generic timer facility as well.

Now if you're saying that we shouldn't slow down gettimeofday on systems
which lack a hardware counter that can be safely exposed to userspace, I
can work with that.

  reply	other threads:[~2014-09-23  0:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-09-18 14:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] arm_arch_timer: VDSO preparation, code consolidation Nathan Lynch
2014-09-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: change clocksource name if CP15 unavailable Nathan Lynch
2014-09-26  7:04   ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-09-26  9:26     ` Will Deacon
2014-09-26 11:34       ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-09-26 14:55     ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: enable counter access for 32-bit ARM Nathan Lynch
2014-09-18 14:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] clocksource: arm_arch_timer: consolidate arch_timer_evtstrm_enable Nathan Lynch
2014-09-22 15:39 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] arm_arch_timer: VDSO preparation, code consolidation Will Deacon
2014-09-22 16:15   ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-22 18:56     ` Daniel Lezcano
2014-09-22 22:30   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-23  0:28     ` Nathan Lynch [this message]
2014-09-24 14:12       ` Christopher Covington
2014-09-24 14:32         ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-24 14:50           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-24 16:58             ` Nathan Lynch
2014-09-24 18:58               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-24 14:45     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-24 14:52       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-09-24 15:04         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-09-24 15:08           ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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